Let's Talk About Poppy's Nerfs @Riot

TheHurricaneGamr·12/7/2016, 12:27:23 AM·4 votes·1,279 views
12/6 PBE Update
  • Base health regen lowered to 1.4 from 1.6

  • Health regen growth lowered to .15 from .16

  • Keeper's Verdict (R) - [new text "Enemies hit with an uncharged Keeper's Verdict will take half the damage and be knocked straight into the air for half the duration."] These changes were released in the 12/6 PBE update, and I just wanted to go over them and possibly get some context about the nerfs.

          First off, my name is TheHurricaneGamr, and NA silver pleb who mains top lane, ![Gangplank](https://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/16.11.1/img/champion/Gangplank.png) ![Poppy](https://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/16.11.1/img/champion/Poppy.png) ![Kled](https://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/16.11.1/img/champion/Kled.png)  in particular.  I have about 127k mastery in Poppy, so I know the ins and outs of her kit as well as how she operates.
    

The first set of nerfs (base health regen and regen/level), are likely targeted at her early game and the fact that she has good defensive stats already. The second nerf is what kind of irks me. (Damage reduction/CC increase on her ult) This is actually going to somewhat painful for her, since her ult is a very big part of her spell rotation. I get that they want her doing less damage and that Courage of the Colossus massively inflated her power level, but now that COTC has been nerfed, is she really still in need of nerfs? Other tanks are doing almost as well as her. If anything, she may be a little bit out of line, but so are other tanks that can abuse COTC (Sion Maokai Malphite Nautilus). Now, these nerfs may not be so bad and cause her winrate to go down a smidgen, but what if the COTC nerfs combined with this nerf absolutely gut her? Will Riot be willing to bring her up to a balanced state, or will she be Sejuanied and be left in the trash can for months on end with a 46%-48% win rate with a 4%-5% play rate like she was this season. I know that she recieved some small buffs during this time, but it was not really until world's that she got buffs that put her back into a good, balanced state. My big questions are: Is Poppy going to be the only tank recieving nerfs? And if these nerfs go too far, will Riot actually be more dedicated to putting her into a balanced spot than they were last season?
Sincerely, TheHurricaneGamr

17 Comments

lolipopevelynn12/7/2016, 1:04:04 AM2 votes

Can't believe they are nerfing poppy again lol. At this point just revert her back to her pre reworked kit and keep the VU rofl...

Marshbouy12/7/2016, 12:33:26 AM2 votes

Poppy was fine before CoC. Poppy will not be gutted after CoC. Poppy players didn't even have to land a charged ult, all they needed to do was press R mid combo and get a free knockup.

XinCrin12/7/2016, 12:39:48 AM2 votes

Poppy's ultimate was intended to use as a disengage not a damage skill.

Ralanr12/7/2016, 12:29:08 AM2 votes

Personally I think the ult nerfs are fine. It just strengthens the intended use of the ult (disengage) by weakening the damage uses.

rG Thundrag12/7/2016, 1:32:23 AM1 votes

Poppy was being played quite often even before Courage of the Colossus being a staple tank top laner to play vs the ranged meta before colossus came out. Only seeing minor nerfs to hp regen is surprising considering her incredibly early game pressure and her ability to appear nigh invulnerable while still doing incredibly damage late game.

RexSaur12/7/2016, 1:33:36 AM1 votes

She still need more nerfs, dont see how this fix her broken trading or late game.

Jax Cramer12/7/2016, 12:42:41 AM1 votes

and NA silver pleb who mains top lane, in particular. I have about 127k mastery in Poppy,

Stopped reading there...Poppy did get the nerfs she deserved, her dmg is way too high. She shouldn't use her ult to kill you in lane.

Niyumi12/7/2016, 12:49:00 AM1 votes

All they need to fucking do is remove her W passive while above the health threshold and move base damage (Q % health) into scalings, and she's fine. But no, they keep gutting her and gutting her. I'm really tired of Meddler refusing to listen to common sense.

Genorok12/7/2016, 1:20:15 AM1 votes

I'm also a bit surprised that they are looking at nerfing the ult AND lowering her defense (health). I don't really get the message Riot is trying to send us with Poppy. The first nerfs are "She's too tanky" and the last nerf is "Build her tank, she does too much dmg"

I'm also curious if Riot is going to nerf the Bruisers and tanks that are currently stronger than Poppy