Kog'maw and AP Yi

Plasma Servant··1 votes·481 views

Yi we were told was supposed to be an AD fighter, and his cd reset (like kat and many others) and ap ratio on alpha strike made him too op. So the ap ratio was removed, along with the cd reset on kill when highlander was active. Okay, he was op ... having the ability to do AP or AD and having ratios that allowed him to knock out huge amounts of health near instantly was wonderful if you played him, not so great if you were playing against him.

Kog'maw. Same thing only worse. He has even less vulnerability than Yi. He can hit you when you can't even see where he is, and he doesn't even have to "get close up and personal" to kill in two skill shots if he can land them.

Either apologize to all those that bought Yi when he had ap ratios and that was why they got him and return him to his prior O.P. ness, or remove the ap ratios from Kog'maw. Stop playing it both ways.

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Lord Dusteon3 votes

What. AP Yi was a design based around using one resetting, MASSIVE damage nuke skill (Q), and if anyone tried to hurt you pressing W for near invulnerability (massive damage reduction? Check. MASSIVE healing? Check). He pressed Q on you, chunked your entire team for half health, and then either got a reset and chunked the other half hp, died while CC'd, or was able to press W and become immortal for 5 seconds. No matter how it played out he was toxic: he was AP Katarina, just with higher instant damage and immortality for 5 seconds.

Ap Kog'Maw, on the other hand, has multiple AP scalings, NONE OF WHICH ARE INFLATED BEYONG BELIEF, and none of which provide a single semblance of tankiness or utility. Built AP, he's a long ranged artillery champion with amazing poke and decent sustained damage. Built AD, he's a long ranged artillery champion with amazing sustained damage and decent poke. Either way he's an incredibly fragile glass cannon with no escapes or way to survive except to try and kill you. Comparing him with AP Yi is rather weird, as they share NO similarities outside of "uses AP".

Marthian1 votes

Also forgot to mention that Kog'maw has to actually land those abilities (which isn't too hard, but it's still not as easy as pressing Q over the enemy.)

PeachsProperty2 votes

ap yi healed full anytime he got away from combat, he hit liek a rock w/o any way to counter it, and he couldnt be slowed while getting a massive speed boost and had reset CD on kill.

koggles has no escape, is squishy as all get out, AND has no heal nor skill resets.

koggles is like MF. can be ap or ad.

yi was horrible in that he had some incredible AP ratio scaling with nothing to hold him back with highlander.

insaiyanbacca1 votes

except kog'maw was designed to be played both ap and ad, actually iirc he was meant to be ap just people started building ad on him anyway

Rebonack1 votes

Kog was designed to be a hybrid champion.

Said as much in his champ preview.

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