So many don't understand Rengar

Vicarious117··6 votes·857 views

So first off this isn't even about how easily Rengar can be countered and denied, it's about his itemization!

If I'm not building full assasin glass canon it doesn't matter how well I'm personally performing my team will still rage at me and blame me for everything that went wrong throughout the entire game. I could be playing tank Rengar and jump the enemy adc, entirely pushing them out of a teamfight while dragging the enemy support and jungler along with us to try and peel me, then my team dies behind me in a 4v2 somehow and I then still manage to get out alive and get back to base for some half decent wave clear to keep out tower alive since I'm too tanky to dive without the enemy carry I chunked too low to push up with his team, and in the end the lost fight was COMPLETELY my fault because I wasn't an assassin who would have most likely just imploded against say that particular enemy team comp anyway....

Sometimes even when going the crit assassin build (which I think is stronger then the armor pen build) I will often times get harassed for it if I'm not hella fed.

Why do people have such a narrow view of Rengar? He has so much variety in his kit that he can perform all these roles, to varrying degrees ofc, and yet going anything other then ghostblade assassin glass canon is flat out ban worthy to an incredible amount of people. It's to the point where even if I win the early game single handedly or even claw us back as a tank peeling or diving in teamfights my team just auto tilts when they see my build and they stop listening to my pings and directions and I eventually have to mute them just so I don't have to deal with the CONSTANT abuse for simply not going the one build they see most often on Rengar, and we end up losing due to lack of communication and half my team tilting and spam typing to the guy who muted them all.....

15 Comments

charcharmunro3 votes

I always saw Rengar as being the assassin that jumps into a fight and stays in the fight, instead of the in-and-out type.

Vicarious1171 votes

Yeah, that's what the last rework was supposed to do for him, but it somehow only made it worse lol

Lauchmelder1 votes

If he should stay in a teamfight then Riot would have to rework his ult. Stealth on a tank with high damage isn't that healthy, especially if the carry Needs 2 ppl to peel for him.

Vicarious1171 votes

Yeah they tried several different iteration, a more Kha'Zix like ulti where he could reactivate it, a non-stealth ulti similar to that of Yi's, and a few others. Basically they were either so awful Rengar would be useless or it would just be OP as fuck.

So if they were to completely rework his ult they'd probably have to do a full kit identity alteration, cause nothing else works apparently.

Zero Skill Tank2 votes

Just rework him.

Vicarious1171 votes

Honestly if they could rework him to be more of a fighter/bruiser with an ult more like Kha'Zix to chase people down or prolong himself in a fight/duel I'd be so happy lol

A lot of people wouldn't be, but I would! xD

lofi n chillhop2 votes

I definitely agree. and I don't even understand his roles anyway! I wish i did... he's not a simple champ to understand, and not often played, so most people are literally in the dark about what he can do. but, they're afraid of his 1-shot potential, and so think that's all that he is...

Vicarious1172 votes

Yeah that's the most annoying thing about playing him, people only know about his one-shot potential and quite literally nothing else most of the time!

I mean sometimes when I get fed or assassinate someone, as an assassin is supposed to do, my opponents will start harassing me with shit like "man Rengar takes no fucking skill to play at all!" Which I mean is a stupid insult, cause who the fuck cares, but it only really shows how absolutely little they actually understand about the champ, but ofc I can't just say that in all chat cause then the harassment will simply continue and I'll have to mute everyone again :P

Hayaishi21 votes

Toxic champions receive toxic reactions.

La Barbotte1 votes

the thing is even tho people complain rengar is one of the fiew assassin that actually are designed like assassins, unless you build him AP hes only single target assassination, like any assassin should, unlike Katarina Talon Zed for exemple that do massive AoE damage on top of their single target burst

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

Only Katarina has that much AoE damage, and she's designed to be able to mop up a low team

La Barbotte2 votes

talon WR in a team fight drop everyone under 3/4 hp, zed WEQ is a fucking huge AoE too

Vicarious1171 votes

Just cause they have AoE elements that deal moderate damage when they're fed doesn't mean they're AoE assassins like Katarina. Talon can only jump one target and Q one target, while Zed can only put his ult on a single target, and in most mid-high elo games those are the only targets you'll be seriously bursting.

Athenes Lulu1 votes

If anyone has seen a Rangar + Lulu, they know how scary it is.

I mean, she can turn anyone into a tank. And if Rengar is some kind of tank PLUS all that killing potential...

Vicarious1171 votes

A duoQ friend of mine who plays support plays Lulu with my Tank Rengar, I jump into a team with her massive speed boost while in my ult and she ults me when I get in between them so we get the team knockup and I'm just impossible to kill.

So yeah I know the combo well lol

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