If you want to buff Lux, revert that godawful W nerf from a while back, don't buff other abilities

Salron·Jul 15, 2017·22 votes·1,835 views

This nerf right here made the ability feel like shit to use: http://puu.sh/wK3r9/31f954730e.png

30 Comments

MunchCrunchLunchJul 15, 20177 votes

I remember the lux nerfs. there was a big outcry about lux for being too safe. she was I do agree. I think a good way to buff lux right now is to increase E damage late game and reduce the mana cost a little at higher ranks.

I don't think the W nerf should be reverted. because it isn't fun being an undiveable mage that clears waves from 3 steps away from T1 tower. it was a good nerf.

Dr PoroJul 15, 20177 votes

To make her viable in professional plays? Just buff damage to minions. All they care about.

Danyul TargaryenJul 15, 20171 votes

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I remember the lux nerfs. there was a big outcry about lux for being too safe. she was I do agree. I think a good way to buff lux right now is to increase E damage late game and reduce the mana cost a little at higher ranks.

I don't think the W nerf should be reverted. because it isn't fun being an undiveable mage that clears waves from 3 steps away from T1 tower. it was a good nerf.

lux cant clear waves with just e at any point in the game unless uber fed

SejeoJul 15, 20173 votes

We are talking about riot here. I can only remember 1 time they took back what they did on live servers.

That being the kog maw change.

BlakiepugJul 15, 20171 votes

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We are talking about riot here. I can only remember 1 time they took back what they did on live servers.

That being the kog maw change.

Even then it wasn't a full revert, it was actually a nerfed version of pre-rework Kog'Maw lol. The W had higher mana costs and ult was not reverted.

SnakDatSmilesBakJul 15, 20173 votes

What if pressing w again made the shield return? Perfectly timing the shield to absorb maximum damage would add a lot of skill expression while taking nothing away from what lux already does. It makes lux harder to kill but I don't think the shield stacks so it should be fine. What do you guys think?

teegoromJul 15, 20172 votes

If you want easy CC AND a strong shield, just play Morgana.

Cereal420Jul 15, 20172 votes

why are you even considering buffing lux? 15 second ult isnt enough for you or what? what about the 2-3 second stun? or the q "skillshot" thats the size of a lane? lux doesn't need buffs idk why this thread is even a thing

SalronJul 15, 20177 votes

Because Riot is insistent on buffing her and I believe that buffing W is a better alternative to loading a ton of power into her other spells while W stays crap

panexinJul 15, 20173 votes

Ult only even APPROACHES 15 second cooldown if a: you build 45% CDR, b: the ability is maxed (a.k.a. it's late-ish and you're 16) c: you manage to get the last hit on a kill with in, halving it's cooldown to ~15

Yeah, her q root lasts for 2 seconds. At least it's not morgana's, and the range is shorter, and its hitbox is slimmer XD

Her E is perhaps one half of a lane? Certainly no worse than a morgana w or anivia ult, for comparison. And it is, by definition, a skill shot.

I think she could use buffs, because even though people harp on her for long range, she literally can't even clear caster minions until she's got a morello and luden's. It's not as safe as people make it out to be at all.

SnakDatSmilesBakJul 15, 20174 votes

Let's be honest, lux e isn't a skill shot unless you're trying to hit more than one person. The radius and travel speed make it really hard to miss it.

WalkingInACircleJul 15, 20176 votes

Uh, in laning phase. Once people have tier 2 boots, its easily dodged at long range.

panexinJul 15, 20172 votes

Truth ^^ I'm not saying it's hard to hit, but when you want to make full use of lux's range, it's very easily dodged. Another reason why she's not quite as safely ranged as people seem to think that she is.

Acheron16Jul 15, 20171 votes

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Uh, in laning phase. Once people have tier 2 boots, its easily dodged at long range.

You mean at max range.

If you walk just a little bit more and shoot behind the target you won't miss. Shame you have to expose a little bit to poke someone.

panexinJul 16, 20171 votes

Isn't that what I just said?

->"but when you want to make full use of lux's range, it's very easily dodged. Another reason why she's not quite as safely ranged as people seem to think that she is."

Also, if you're just poking with e without properly exposing yourself and proccing your passive, you're gonna go out of mana a whole lot quicker than your lane opponent is going to go out of life.

FairyfleurJul 15, 20173 votes

Her Q is a snare, not a stun. The snare duration is two seconds at all ranks, not three.

MagikarpIsBossJul 16, 20172 votes

I want them to make her actually be able to oneshot a wave (or at least back like and 1 auto for the frontline) with e maxed. Waiting to either be insanely fed or having Ludens is pretty stupid considering most midlaners can oneshot it with either a fully maxed ability or only a first item/components.

If they dont want to make her E be better for poking though jut make it have increased damage to minions.

I do understand though that with really good wave clear from a safe distance she will be strong, but she at least needs something like this to be relevant.

koshkyraJul 15, 20171 votes

It should be reversed.

99.99% of the time you are aiming to hit the ally with the shield going out, not it coming back. The fact that this happens is nothing but a nerf to her.

RavenHuskyJul 15, 20171 votes

The huge nerf was in patch 6.6, not 6.7. The change in 6.7 made it slightly less worse to use.

SalronJul 15, 20171 votes

Fixed

NineTailedMysticJul 15, 20171 votes

Isn't that the one that let people actually burst her tho?

Also nice FEK Avatar lol

SalronJul 15, 20175 votes

Yeah but it legitimately feels like you don't have a W ability sometimes because of its piss poor speed and shielding power Honestly just the speed revert alone would suffice

EinarUlfarJul 15, 20171 votes

Shhhhhhh! .... don't let the Riot Police know you said "Revert" and "nerf" in the same sentence.

Big LincolnJul 15, 20171 votes

shield lux is more tolerable than ult every 10 seconds lux

bring it back

SanKakUJul 15, 20171 votes

I have a good idea for Lux's W. Make it scale with magic resist and armor. You can even say make the going out portion scale with armor and the coming back portion scale with magic resist if you want to get fancy.

SnakDatSmilesBakJul 15, 20172 votes

But lux never really wants to build armor and mr. But hey it'll make anti bruiser bruiser lux better.

SanKakUJul 15, 20171 votes

The value itself scaling with those stats would be a pretty big deal. I don't think any shield right now does that. It would make a support that focuses on protecting her team with W viable. The old W was never great for that, but now her W for protection is rather pathetic compared to every other shield. Letting it scale with defensive stats would give her a way to support in a legitimate way that wouldn't be weak. She can still build CDR while getting tank stats and the CDR will be helpful in triggering her passive for decent damage output. Point is, she'd still have a weak shield if she went full AP, which was the point of the nerfing of her W in the first place. Why not give something back to support Lux if someone wanted to go that route?

Acheron16Jul 15, 20171 votes

My question is why do they even want to buff Lux.

She's been stupidly strong for the better part of a year.

MagikarpIsBossJul 16, 20172 votes

Shes been complete shit for around a whole year. Idk what you mean.

VallalanJul 16, 20171 votes

personally I wanna see more damage on lux. the W feels so shitty now, but if you revert it she still has the same problems and you just make her safer.

right now if you build any semblance of mr vs a lux she can't one shot, she can't poke reliably and she just becomes useless.

they have to buff either cooldown, mana costs, or damage.

they want her to perform better in team fights, maybe have her E have a 12 second cooldown at all ranks, but it goes down by 3 seconds for each champion you hit with it. so in a team fight if you hit 3 people, it then has a 3 second cooldown. if you hit one person in lane its 9 seconds. if you miss its a longer cooldown then on live. punishes bad lux's, rewards good lux's.