Buffing Karma won't fix any of her core issues

RowanEnd·4/3/2016, 3:20:09 AM·49 votes·2,326 views

The issue with Karma isn't her numbers, its her kit itself. Her abilities, whilst pretty, somewhat-balanced and somewhat fun to play, are not at their full potential and are downright boring in their current state, especially compared to her kit before the rework. Make her more of a yin/yang champ that balances the passive/aggression within to win battles like in her lore, NOT a champ that just gets extra damage on their abilities for casting mantra. Give her her fans back, no other champ had fans at it was unique. GIVE HER A PROPER RUNNING ANIMATION AND A ANIMATION FOR HER E CAST. She literally has no animation for her E and it's just lazy. Give her a better passive. Her current one doesn't have much impact and could be so much more.

Edit: I'm not saying she isn't fun or balanced right now. I really enjoy playing Karma, I just think that she has a lot more that could be done to her.

35 Comments

Irelia Bot4/3/2016, 7:19:34 AM12 votes

I miss you mega spirit bomb. You made really good use of cookies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECi1M3h9yVg

skyfall6194/3/2016, 4:59:47 PM7 votes

her current passive should be attached to her ult. and a new passive something like she gets stacks of x and when u have x amount of stacks u get an addition charge of mantra. or something that resets mantra. her kit i think is perfect as is its just her passive that feels nonexistent.

AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD GIVE KARMA BACK THE SHIELD EXPLOSION. that was like what made karma karma

Saianna4/3/2016, 9:03:09 AM6 votes

especially compared to her kit before the rework.

I couldn't stand playing pre-rework Karma. I liked Shield bomb and that's about all.

So please, don't spout bullshit like "core issues", k?

OverpoweredSoap4/3/2016, 6:53:25 AM6 votes

I believe Meddler said they know this already (that she is rather boring anyways, they also admitted removing her fans were generally a mistake [that was ages ago]) , however they believe she isn't a big issue right now compared to other champions.

SlampieceHawke4/3/2016, 3:14:04 PM4 votes

As a huge fan of Karma, I completely disagree with this post. I've had winning streaks after her barrier buff in bot lane and in mid. I really like where she's at. Anyone whos having problems must not be rushing 45% CDR and R+E'ing their team in fights.

Slack King4/3/2016, 3:26:59 PM3 votes

Leave Karma alone

Vanjie4/3/2016, 2:36:24 PM3 votes

I completely agree. I have to disagree and say that she could also use a new W and W+R . . . . it's hardly used and doesn't fit her as much of a character. What Karma really needs is a new passive.

Abyssphere4/3/2016, 5:25:58 PM3 votes

I don't get what the point of this thread is. Riot are aware that Karma's rework has issues, both from a gameplay and character point of view. They're also aware that they can't do anything about that right now because even if Karma's rework wasn't great and her kit is bland, "bland" isn't bad enough for a VGU. There are other people that just need it much, much more at this stage. In the mean time why shouldn't they buff her? Should she be left bad until she gets a rework in like, three years minimum?

No buffing Karma isn't going to make her what she should be but that doesn't mean they shouldn't do it. May as well let her be good if she's gonna be bland.

TNHA Baritone4/3/2016, 6:50:36 AM2 votes

100% agree

Brorelia4/3/2016, 7:31:04 AM2 votes

IT wouldn't be so bad if they had at least tried to improve old karma to some degree. But she lacked any hard CC or decent disruption outside of shielding a enemy minion which is annoying but not really going t odo much unless the person is easily tilted by missing CS and that was one of the bigger short comings I recall.

She was fun just not super effective. Basically a champ that did not have all of her power budget being used and as a result often begin at or around a 30% win rate.

Just adding a root at the end of her mantra link would have likely done wonders in improving performance.

LOLHack1014/3/2016, 3:24:45 PM2 votes

Give back damage on R+E, R+Q second irruption reduced to 1 sec instead of 1.5, focus resolve root 2 sec at all rank. Or make her R+Q damage over time on after landed.

Sukishoo4/3/2016, 4:30:31 PM1 votes

Only thing I miss about Karma was her Heal.

Fashion Mage4/3/2016, 11:17:28 PM1 votes

I kind of wish they'd just re-introduce old Karma as a different champ.

SnazzyTheMister4/4/2016, 3:50:01 AM1 votes

her passive is more then just cdr its also that she gets her ult lvl 1. it makes sense for her passive to read as a little on the weaker side because it also impacts all of her abilities.

the shield bomb while cool and iconic is really hard to balance around cus you have probably one of the best teamfight spells in the game. it does damage, its protects allies, and it has a low cooldown because if you hit enemies it lowers your mantra. mantra shield is fine where it is now (its been getting quietly buffed for a few patches now) it can be almost like an aoe lulu ult when you get some ap behind it.