make is Q bounce like ziggs Q make is R work with W make his E last longer if he have more AP and lastly make him store 2 bomb BAM!!!!!
or make Q easier to stick on champion or make it detonable
disregardable1 votesOr recognize you fucked up horribly and revert the whole rework...
F031 voteswhy would you guys buff zilean thats stupid
EDIT: this thread is bait
MisterHealYoGirl1 votesHis R's cooldown was already lowered to compensate for his W not working on it. If his W worked, his ult would be on a 12 second cooldown. The other two aren't bad, but they don't address the inherent problems that Zilean has; he's terrifying if your carries are ahead (Annie can't Tibbers them twice), but offers no tools to really GET them there. His only poke is very unreliable, since his time bombs are hard to hit and easy to dodge, and he offers no reliable hard CC. One Rioter mentioned something about making his W into his passive (which stinks), where you can cast your spells while they're on cooldown, but doing so puts the passive on the remaining cooldown of the spell. That would open up the option for a new ability, maybe another damage tool or some more dependable CC.
F031 votesHis R's cooldown was already lowered to compensate for his W not working on it. If his W worked, his ult would be on a 12 second cooldown. The other two aren't bad, but they don't address the inherent problems that Zilean has; he's terrifying if your carries are ahead (Annie can't Tibbers them twice), but offers no tools to really GET them there. His only poke is very unreliable, since his time bombs are hard to hit and easy to dodge, and he offers no reliable hard CC. One Rioter mentioned something about making his W into his passive (which stinks), where you can cast your spells while they're on cooldown, but doing so puts the passive on the remaining cooldown of the spell. That would open up the option for a new ability, maybe another damage tool or some more dependable CC.
or you could use that max rank 90% slow to land skillshots.
MisterHealYoGirl1 votesI know, and I do, but the slow range is less than half of the bomb range, and if you double-bomb someone, you can't speed-boost away. It's definitely an option, but it's not an awesome one. In lane, the slow isn't particularly strong, because you're maxing out your Q, and you'll get out-traded pretty hard unless their support is literally a potato. Late-game, meandering to the front of a teamfight will probably get you killed, since you're slow without your E and very squishy.
F031 votesI know, and I do, but the slow range is less than half of the bomb range, and if you double-bomb someone, you can't speed-boost away. It's definitely an option, but it's not an awesome one. In lane, the slow isn't particularly strong, because you're maxing out your Q, and you'll get out-traded pretty hard unless their support is literally a potato. Late-game, meandering to the front of a teamfight will probably get you killed, since you're slow without your E and very squishy.
so you're putting all your points into q?
MisterHealYoGirl1 votesOf course not. I'm just saying that slowing someone with your E isn't always possible or advisable.
Kledy McKledFace1 votesbounce would be weird except if they keep the stun
o0O Madoka O0o1 votesJust buff his Q range by 50, and he will be amazing.
