Refunded Bard after two games...

Rand0mH3r0X··2 votes·1,705 views

This is totally more of a Rant than anything else, but at least it starts the discussion. It might just be me, but I feel like Bard is some cruel joke. He has a lot of cc, but it's not worth it. I would like a refund token returned to me for wasting it on trying him, and here are my list of grievances:

1.) All the meeps start appearing in enemy jg and you can't do anything about it except wait for some to appear safely near you, or take the risk and ward enemy jg while you're out.

2.) His counter-play is ridiculously easy. Did he just q? Then go #$%& him up.

3.) Place a ward near dragon to catch him leaving bot lane if he attempts to invade friendly jg to collect meeps. Did he enter our jg? Then go #$%& him up.

4.) His movement speed is 330. Seriously? His name should be the slowly trudging fat guy because he barely moves at 330. He depends so much on mobility for him not to have at least 335. Was that a Bard? THEN GO #$%& HIM UP.

5.) False bonus movement speed. If Bard receives a slow, he's been shut down. It seems to be that even at 5 stacks, and movement boots, it only takes one movement speed reduction to slow him down to nothing. Just as if his movement speed never mattered.

6.) No item capability. This goes with the 330 movement speed. He doesn't have very good regen, base stats, or anything really. He doesn't excel at anything but cc, so why are cc items in his recommended build?

7.) 11 second meeps. That's too long to make an attack. Perhaps 11 seconds for two meeps would be better since I have to take the huge risk of going into enemy jg to collect meeps in the first place. You can make meeps rewarding by just making them relevant.

8.) 1.8 second stun. Like serious wtf for that. What's wrong with a flat or max 2 second stun? Do you know how hard it is to line up a champion with a minion, wall or other champion? On top of that, once Bard Q's, he will get #$%& up. (See #2) I deserve that stun to let me run away or throw meeps.

9.) Ultra patience required for 11 second q, 110 second r, 20 second w, and 24 second e. I literally just stand in the lane because I have no meeps to throw, no q, used the e to create a wall for the hell of it and save my r so that if a party at bot starts I can get away because my chances are so low without it.

10.) Bard was expected before he was ever released. He is the epitomy of the complaints that Riot refuses to consider. Too much cc, too much mobility, too difficult (that catered to the pro's bs. Who honestly pays for skins? The pro's or us?) and too boring. Everything for bard is a critical decision. Do I want to damage or do I want to escape? The w doesn't do much in the way of escape unless you previously placed them in the right spots for escape. But forget about it if the team slows you after you pick it up.

11.) AP mid has a new stasis. His ult can stop other champion's ultimates, except, certain champions like ez, morg, fiddle, (and yi's q) and the other typical stasis champions. How clutch is it if you give the enemy team a free pass to damage you and your team? I literally had an ez who would ult every time I ulted him because he could still shoot it at me through stasis.

12.) Super-Meta champion. Bard couldn't be anything else other than support bot. He is too reliant on other damage to follow up on him. He's fixed with the items that he'd build. To get the most out of Bard, you have to play him as intended. I can't jg bard, I die. I saw a few Bard mid and they were awful. He's good at one thing only, Crowd Control.

I'm not a person for playing support, since I always end up carrying the carry. I understand supports have a more passive mentallity, but c'mon I'm sitting around 10 seconds at a time wasting away. Supports don't have to be such boring champions. And all the tunes and flashy lights seem to try to hide the dullness, but it doesn't. As stated long before, I'd like my refund token back. Bard might actually be the first champion I'd like to see get removed from the game. My experience with him so far has been that awful.

14 Comments

Vicvictorw7 votes

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I'm not a person for playing support

And yet you purchased Bard. I don't see how that's Riot's problem.

Rand0mH3r0X1 votes

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And yet you purchased Bard. I don't see how that's Riot's problem.

Well why not? He's the only champion I had ever refunded. Hence the reason why I still have tokens. He is just that bad. I even bought him with IP yet I still used a refund credit because he was that bad.

Truly Prideful4 votes

Maybe he's just not for you? I've been playing him a lot and do well with him. He's a lot of fun to me. The playmaking ability in his kit is really high when you play him well.

Godhri1 votes

to be fair, it does say that his secondary role is that of a mage. This is really only true late game when you collect enough chimes and you have been building AP.

Lean into it4 votes

who the hell still has refund tokens

Godhri1 votes

Too true lol

Leti the Yeti1 votes

wow, I havent even touched bard after buying him o- o

so many people claiming he sucks,i dont even wanna begin anymore

Godhri1 votes

Bard doesn't "suck" per se. He's just..."different". I do agree on one of your points; that is, his play style is too limited. A good bard would actually win the game easily for his team because his entire worth (imo) is in his ultimate. I've done horribly as bard so far for the most part but when I did do well, it was devastating for the enemy team.

Bard jungle while not viable, is possible without dying. I did it... once. Lol and I actually did decent, but he is definitely not a solo laner due to his need for chimes and lack of wave clear ability.

Player of Games1 votes

He barely has any cc other than a conditional 1.8 second stun, that doubles up as a slow. If you want CC there's no reason at all to play Bard over Braum, Thresh, Nami, Leona, Morgana, and Blitz.

Rand0mH3r0X1 votes

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He barely has any cc other than a conditional 1.8 second stun, that doubles up as a slow. If you want CC there's no reason at all to play Bard over Braum, Thresh, Nami, Leona, Morgana, and Blitz.

Meeps have 25% slow on them. And Bard's tunnel slows down enemy champs by 10%, even though it's written as speeds up friendly champions by 10%.

Player of Games1 votes

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Meeps have 25% slow on them. And Bard's tunnel slows down enemy champs by 10%, even though it's written as speeds up friendly champions by 10%.

Hence barely has any CC. While that may be true, 25% slow on per meep is rather metiocre considering the trials of gathering chimes to increase their quantity. They need to be affected by CDR (respawn timer), or he needs to start with additional meeps to help his power. As it stands if I wanted a slow, or for whomever would need one, Nami's E is far superior and allows three autos that slow.

Don't get me wrong, he's a fun champion and I like him thematically, and his abilities, however there really isn't much of a reason to pick him seriously over any other meta support right now. His ult is gamechanging, yes. But it's far too situational and given the missile speed it's fairly easy for things to backfire.

Trash MammaI1 votes

One thing I do agree with those chimes need to spawn closer..I get sick of seeing them spawn at the enemy wolves or near their inhib tower when i'm all the way in bot lane.

Rand0mH3r0X1 votes

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One thing I do agree with those chimes need to spawn closer..I get sick of seeing them spawn at the enemy wolves or near their inhib tower when i'm all the way in bot lane.

I'd hope that they won't spawn near the enemy turret like they always do. I see them sometimes spawn waay up north in between first and second turret near brush even if I'm on the left side playing at bot.

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

Somewhere, there are already 20 asian Lol players who proves your thread wrong. Git gud.

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