Is sightstone a must have early item on every support?
Just wondering i dont support much and when i do i usually play mage supports
Just wondering i dont support much and when i do i usually play mage supports
Every time the enemy support doesn't rush sightstone I tell my jungler to camp bot once I get sweeper and a pink ward.
Things do not end well for the enemy support.
I haven't bought Sightstone any game as support, and won plenty of times you do not need it, as long as you're smart and place your wards wisely
it helps, but is most certainly not needed
Depends on matchup.
If you're getting pushed, no need, otherwise no excuse.
Each time someone doesn't rush sightstone I can only sit and laugh at them because they're too entitled to buy an 800g item that's 3x much more worth than its cost.
no, you and your adc both have natural wards
Natural Wards, the best type of ward
Are you for real? x)
I agree with vivalakitten.
no, you and your adc both have natural wards
Natural Wards, the best type of ward
shame on you!!!! You bring disgrace on all kitten kind!!
i forever ban you from supporting, and i revoke your title of "kitten"
sorry swifty, but I'm the kitty to rule all kitties no one is more kitty than me <3
sorry swifty, but I'm the kitty to rule all kitties no one is more kitty than me <3
then i shall have to take this up with the itty bitty kitty committee, and possibly even ceiling cat.
XD
don't you ever, ever associate the kittens with those Grammar freaks ever! you son of a dog (no offense <3)
Usually you start a money item. After that depending on how much mana or health/vision you need you either get the starter mana item or sightstone.
No, it is not necessary. Only thing bot needs to do is not feed.
Generally get tier two gold generation into sight stone. Playing lux or maokai support as well as when they keep the lane pushed you can hold off for a while. I always try to have one by 15 min in though.
When I play rengar support I don't use sightstone :3 I just ks all kills and mute adc's toxicity.
Most situations it's good, but not required to buy it.
As a support main, YES you need it on all types of supports. I usually start off with tier one gold item, then get a sightstone as my first back. After this I got into finishing the gold item till it's tier 3 and then just make the rest of my build. If I do need the extra health I'll upgrade the sightstone to Ruby asap.
No, but if you don't build sightstone there is a heavy cost. So don't act dumbfounded when your adc behaves differently.
No, not if he curses you out. If he curses you he can just go to hell..
I mean gameplay wise.
Yes, you do not have to buy it on your very first recall but you really should get Sightstone and sweeper on the one after that so you can start controlling the dragon area. If you just ignore Sightstone any jungler worth a damn will clear your trinket wards then chain gank you during the ward cooldown.
if you are playing any support (Seriously any support) you need a sightstone. It's just so cost effective to get the wards that you'll need to begin the vision control. When I do support my first back is Sight stone, red trinket, Pink ward. Begin removing enemy supports wards and just laugh as you call your jungler in. Seriously it's important. Vision = Winning. So ward! PLEASE!
Depends on how early you consider _early. _
Depending on who I'm playing, who the enemy jungler is and what they've been doing (focusing top and mid? it can wait) and how well we're doing botlane, I might push a sightstone back a little. But I'll ALWAYS have a sightstone before I finish building any other item (even if I do crossbuild mana regen and cdr).
Yes.
No exceptions.
In most games yes you need it early.
There are occasional games where its appropriate to delay buying sightstone. You should only do this when you know the item you will buy instead will guarantee to give you an advantage. Examples of this are, if you are playing a tank sup and you lane is losing and pushed, so you need to rush a tank item to remain relevant and not get poked then dived.
For mages, an appropriate time to delay would be if an enemy AP midlaner is super fed, but isnt roaming, then locket would be worth rushing so the game isnt lost as soon as lane phase is over. Another example would be if your team is ahead with very good jungle presence. Then you can risk going for an item that can give you an advantage in lane, such as finishing FQC for the slow, to snowball your adc.
Other champions such as zyra can get away with delaying it as her seeds act as mini wards.
Its very situational and whether you can delay depends on each game. If you dont have enough experience to know if you should or not, play it safe and just buy sightstone.
You should always buy a sightstone as the support. Yeah, technically there are games where you don't "have to" get one, because in lower elo your team might be so far ahead that it doesn't matter. You also technically don't need everyone connect to the game, because sometimes you can win 4v5. You don't technically need to build damage on Ashe or Varus, because you can provide utility and be carried.
That doesn't mean you shouldn't always still do those things to give your team the best chance to win.
Have you ever killed an Ezreal a couple times early, and then he comes back to lane with a Tear and you know the lane is already over? That's what it's like for the jungler/top with TP when the enemy support doesn't have a sightstone/sweeper.
I'd recommend to have it by 13mins. remember, 8mins is when jungles will start hitting level 6 and actually become a threat. You need to start being cautious around that time.
Generally, you don't need a sightstone until teamfights break out. Your four botlane wards and 2 pinks are more than enough for the duration of the laning phase.
Once teamfights break out and you need more coverage, that's when you should get an SS
Sightstone is the first Item I buy as a supp + a pink and a sweeper on the first back
You play mages? build this
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Don't want sightstone? Do that in norms or let your team know in advance.
I just get pinks and use sweeper to deny enemy vision but I usually play Zyra who is built in with wards.
I really like how everyone who says no gets downvoted. But honestly its not really all that important. Yellow trinket light the map nicelly with the new plants you can see enemy vision and some ADCs just dont respect. You ward, ping but they stay. Sightstone gets you killed meanwhile the extra fienish codex can kill your enemy faster than it kills you. Really imo sightstone is only for Diamond and higher. Even plat players do not use the wards that well. In bronze? You can have 3 wards in a bush where is Rengar and your ADC still goes near the bush to auto that rengar. The sightstone sheeps are same as heal on ADC sheeps :) BTW after lvl 14 to 15 you reach ward cap with the totem anyways so if the game stretches into the absolute endgame you have basically sightstone for free. But since most games are decided by that point I dont really use this.