QoL for Shyvana

Frosted Tips··14 votes·8,006 views

Shyvana should have her Ultimate recharge while she is dead. When she respawns after using her Ultimate she has to wait the entire regeneration time for her Ultimate to charge. Just have it recharge at a lower rate or something. It just feels so awful to not have any charge after you respawn. What do you all think?

21 Comments

Elite4Runner10 votes

I actually noticed this the other day when I got rolled Shyv in an ARAM. There isn't any reason for her ultimate to not charge while she is dead.

EVERY OTHER CHAMPION'S ULTIMATE CONTINUES TO COOLDOWN WHILE THEY ARE DEAD.

True Garen3 votes

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I actually noticed this the other day when I got rolled Shyv in an ARAM. There isn't any reason for her ultimate to not charge while she is dead.

EVERY OTHER CHAMPION'S ULTIMATE CONTINUES TO COOLDOWN WHILE THEY ARE DEAD.

Yeah, this is a good idea. Upvoted. It won't even amount to much of a buff. It's practically a bugfix.

noufeldj2 votes

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Yeah, this is a good idea. Upvoted. It won't even amount to much of a buff. It's practically a bugfix.

Thank you

Woodakoodashooda6 votes

Not QoL, more like buff.

DuskDaUmbreon3 votes

Eh. Semi-buff.

Yeah, it's a buff, but it's also mostly QoL. Kinda like having Quinn revive in her R.

Frosted Tips3 votes

Most QoL are buffs.

Raven Redeemed2 votes

They are pretty much mutually exclusive. Buffs add power to a champion, QoL changes indicate negligible to no added power (while still being beneficial). For example, when they made it so Poppy Q will auto target the unit she used E on, it was a QoL change because you could already do that, it just because easier for the user to execute.

Dracocrash2 votes

It's not a QOL buff, but its a much needed buff.

Fondling Gems2 votes

Honestly I like the idea since it buffs Shyvana when behind more than when she is ahead. It also prevents the issue of having to wait forever to get your ult back when your team is locked in your base and you have waveclear teammates blasting the waves before you can hit them.

Brutalitops011 votes

I think that, once you're a bit later in the game, you can recharge it by taking 2 camps anyway because it recharges in bursts when you auto people. There is absolutely no reason to increase the recharge rate. It's already faster to get up than most ultimates with similar impact and you can recharge it by autoing, not to mention that Q counts as 2 hits for it and any hit with a fully charged Guinsoo's will also count as 2 hits.

DuskDaUmbreon6 votes

The thing is if you're behind (when this would help Shyvana most), you have basically no chance to get R back against camps or anything.

Mostly what this would be would be a "Hey, we'll let you actually fight after reviving if they're at your nexus".

Frosted Tips5 votes

This is kinda my point. It is for base defense. Currently if it gets to that point Shyvana literally just sits back and watches her base fall.

Z3Sleeper3 votes

Nothing to do with the recharge rate. A dead shyvanna doesn't charge at all. That's his issue.

Imagine you're losing as Shyvanna and the enemy pushed into your base. You spawn with 0 fury. Good luck defending.

Silent Crescendo1 votes

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SooFr0sty1 votes

Cool down reduction does not effect it tho, so there is your trade off already.

Mimr1 votes

I don't feel that it's necessary. It's short enough as it is for the enormous amount of power it gives her. Besides that, auto-attacking reduces it even further.

Lastly, Shyvana doesn't need any buffs. It's just not really her kind of meta atm. Wait until the next tank meta rolls around and watch the "OMG Shyvana OP" threads pop up because she eats tanks for breakfast.

Frosted Tips2 votes

First the power it gives her is that she becomes relevant. She is practically useless without ult.

Shendelzare11 votes

Yeah she needs this,her late game needs this.Also urf deathmatch on nexus blitz should recharge her ult faster and recharge it instantly when she respawns second and third time.

0 Hogapu1 votes

This is not a Quality of Life change, this is a buff (no matter if I agree on if she needs it)

YGREniS1 votes

Yep. Shyvana needs that as well as more things. Shyvana is in a really bad spot and seems like riot doesn't give a fk.

There is no much more to say that people have not said yet about her...

Shyvana without her ult is legit a worst Udyr. If you die lategame, after your respawn you will be basically useless while all other champs will have their ult again. A good way to solve this would be, as you proposed, have her Ultimate recharge while she is dead. Shyvana passively generate 1-1.5-2 fury per second. Early and mid game she really didnt need to generate that too while dead. However, lategame is a must so in my opinion she should generate the same that now while alive but while dead she should generate something like 0-1-2.

Also she needs her q nerfs be reverted as well as much other things...

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