Fix Top Lane. That would be great.

Dominus Dunk·Feb 10, 2018·8 votes·1,168 views

BEFORE YOU READ ANY OF THIS IF YOU COME HERE TO JUST BITCH ABOUT SOMETHING I SAID THEN LEAVE. I POSTED ON HERE BECAUSE I WANTED TO DEBATE WITH PEOPLE NOT HEAR ABOUT HOW MUCH OF AN "IDIOT" I AM.

This section tells me to add my thoughts and let me tell you something that is what im exactly going to do. Top lane makes me feel like if someone is robbing me im hitting them with a wet noodle and that person robbing me is the bot lane and they just shoot me in the face. This game is bot lane meta. Supports get more gold than they should, adcs have the cheapest item path and scale the hardest late game with the broken supports. How does this affect top you ask? Well here let me answer that for you. You could be snowballing the top lane and get the turret and all those things, but when you have to go against a support with cc and an adc that has been farming for the past 20 mins the game(if the game even makes it that far in laning because now the laning phase is over by 10-15 mins anyway) becomes so hard to even try and carry. Top laners cant do shit. Mid laners and jg can at least help the bot lane meta get ahead and win the game that way but with top lane its like you're in a third world country. Lastly where is the bruiser keystone? Their isnt one at all. You said you would add one so where is it. Dont tell me aftershock or grasp because that is for tanks not for bruisers. The best part about this too is that if you try and nerf the bot lane role adc's will go to Reddit and just say "omg why cant I have a good early, mid, and late game what is this?!?!?" and the support will say "what are you talking about I dont get any gold." First of all support shouldnt get any gold because they dont do shit but press a button that gives the ad a shield to trade or take them away from a gank and they dont get affected by it at all. Please fix this game. You wonder why people stop playing this game because it gets worse every year, every season, every patch.

Edit: Im not saying top lane needs to become "The Lane" again, I just want top lane to have more of an impact in the game then the very little it does now.

PS: NERF ZOE ALREADY.

From the deepest part of my heart of a top lane main, RaidBøssDarius

30 Comments

TamikazeFeb 10, 20185 votes

As a Hardcore Twisted Fate main right now. I can completely understand. I hate it when I go bot lane and I'm only one level ahead of them because the bot lane is so strong and I end up usually inting to them because I don't do enough dmg with the enemy support jus peeling me off or them just giving tons of shields/heals to the adc. They need to fix the rune system or just remove it and go back. It sucks.

Tamikaze TwistedFate

OxyrottenFeb 10, 20182 votes

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As a Hardcore Twisted Fate main right now. I can completely understand. I hate it when I go bot lane and I'm only one level ahead of them because the bot lane is so strong and I end up usually inting to them because I don't do enough dmg with the enemy support jus peeling me off or them just giving tons of shields/heals to the adc. They need to fix the rune system or just remove it and go back. It sucks.

Tamikaze

It's not just masteries it's the whole state of the game, and a dozen or so mechanics intentionally implemented to make it like this.

TamikazeFeb 10, 20183 votes

Yeah I agree. I just didn't want to type a 4 page essay on all the things I hate I just listed off the first things that came to my mind in the middle of the night.

KlydeFrogFeb 10, 20182 votes

Soooo because the supp is peeling like it has been since season 2 it's a issue because people are doing their job ......

TamikazeFeb 10, 20182 votes

No, the issue is that supports gain money as fast as I do. When I come bot lane the support is so tanky I can't even push them back with dmg. It's literally impossible to kill alistar rn with the gold income he can get. I'm fine with supports peeling adcs because that takes skill. But when you just sit there and give your adc a massive shield for half of their health or restore all their health back from 100 HP, it doesn't take that much skill and makes bot lane the meta rn.

KlydeFrogFeb 10, 20181 votes

Okay where to start. Alistar has his ult for tankiness and you can go relic shield but umm it's a item that gives you 500 hp and 10% cdr. Basically Sunfire cape. Next his CDs are all high , Janna shield is high CD her heal is high CD. And in order for them to make a huge shield they need revitalize and items that give bonus like ardent censor and redemption.

TamikazeFeb 11, 20182 votes

Redemption is usually the first item supports usually go for anyway, plus you legit just proved my point that Relic and support items are strong. Also, when I was talking about Alistar I wasn't talking about his cooldowns I was talking about how he's such a prominent tank so early on. In addition, supports always take revitalize which you can't really prove that they won't bring that instead of something else.

vgamedudeFeb 10, 20185 votes

God why does everyone have to throw zoe qq into every post? She's already getting gutted and she has NOTHING to do with top lane.

Dominus DunkFeb 10, 20181 votes

Really out of everything in that post thats all you have to say. Its about zoe? Did you even read it or just skip to the last part where it says PS: lol.

vgamedudeFeb 10, 20182 votes

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Really out of everything in that post thats all you have to say. Its about zoe? Did you even read it or just skip to the last part where it says PS: lol.

I saw PS Nerf Zoe and decided not to read the post.

Dominus DunkFeb 10, 20183 votes

Dont even have a response to that. If you dont even have the time to read that dont want to debate this topic with you glad you didnt.

ZephyrDrakeFeb 10, 20182 votes

[{quoted}](name=Raid Bøss Darius,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LnUi4NE0,comment-id=0003000000000000,timestamp=2018-02-10T07:35:37.962+0000)

Dont even have a response to that. If you dont even have the time to read that dont want to debate this topic with you glad you didnt.

maybe if you weren't putting random Zoe QQ in your thread that has nothing to do at all with what you are discussing maybe you wouldn't have to deal with people like him. Maybe you shouldn't be putting things in your thread that you don't want to be discussed in the first place

Dominus DunkFeb 10, 20181 votes

That is true, but I couldnt help but leave something like that because of how riot handles nerfing champs. They even said recently that they dont take into account player frustration when playing against a certain champ. Zoe just angers me to a point where I want her gutted and never come back. I understand what you mean though, but I still wish that person would read it. I made this so I could debate this topic with people, because all I am to everyone in the league community is a "Dirty Darius Main" when he can get counter picked so easily.

NetorareFeb 10, 20182 votes

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God why does everyone have to throw zoe qq into every post? She's already getting gutted and she has NOTHING to do with top lane.

Because they dont want to dodge her skill shots

King JarvanFeb 10, 20183 votes

#i totally agree this is just ridiculous, as a jarvan top used to be (as he got nerfed to shit and is no longer viable top) that top lane is utter trash now!

SohleksFeb 10, 20182 votes

Don't worry they will fix Lissandra next item 3151

Dominus DunkFeb 10, 20182 votes

Im ok with that to be honest. Lets get some new champs in the top lane instead of the same ol' rotation of gangplank, gnar, and jayce.

AzeranthFeb 11, 20182 votes

https://youtu.be/FAyQlbqeaew

DegenERICKFeb 10, 20181 votes

You play Darius one of the most broken champs in the game who auto-win lane no matter what just by right clicking.

I legit had a Darius walk into my minion wave on level 1 and kill me inside my own minion wave due to his broken numbers and passive.

Get out dude, learn a real champ

Dominus DunkFeb 10, 20183 votes

Are you crazy? Darius is in his weakest state right now. Just because you dont know how to play against Darius dosent mean hes broken lol. Their are many counters to Darius that I could name. Darius is a low elo abuser because people dont know that you could just play a ranged top and kite him easily.

Just to show you that I play different champs here you go: https://gyazo.com/3d814328c0574a63e17b12032346b4e2

DegenERICKFeb 10, 20181 votes

Hahahaahahahahahaha,

That's all I'm gonna say.

Idc tho, I perma ban that busted champ every game.

choggerFeb 10, 20184 votes

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Hahahaahahahahahaha,

That's all I'm gonna say.

Idc tho, I perma ban that busted champ every game.

when was the last time you played league of legends?

TamikazeFeb 10, 20184 votes

I don't know where you're coming from, but Darius is nowhere nearly as broken compare to the other meta champions right now. You probably are hard stuck bronze or silver and can't figure out the match up for Darius, and just because he killed you level 1 and you weren't paying attention to him you say that he is absolutely broken and that he an auto-win lane champion. I bet your LIFE if you play Gnar top with Summon Aery and Frozen Mallet item 3022 , there is no way you can lose that lane, because you can just kite out Darius like he's a worthless tank. There are so many more match ups that can beat Darius that it's very humorous that you say he is an auto-win laner.

KlydeFrogFeb 10, 20181 votes

Again there is no meta .... Stop saying that. Umm grasp plus second wind or overgrowth....or learn to play as urgot .

Dominus DunkFeb 10, 20181 votes

What do you mean their is no meta? I dont understand that. Their always has been a meta in this game. Grasp is more of a tank mastery then bruiser but its the closest thing that we have.

KlydeFrogFeb 10, 20182 votes

Umm what your describing is basically a general description of the game.... Also what changed from the previous runes and masteries to now....nothing really . What rune did you take in the previous runes

Dominus DunkFeb 10, 20182 votes

I was saying that whatever bot lane gets ahead first and gets the first blood turret the game is over. They just rotate mid then top, go to herald and push the game to end. I used to take fervor before the rune changes. I understand that their is press the attack and I used to take that until they nerfed it.

KlydeFrogFeb 10, 20181 votes

So you see there is no change in via runes and masteries. That's the point. Also people are squishy because lack of armor runes and Mr people used to take before the new ones. And grasp gives you 5 hp on each cast. If your some one who can dive and cc like malph always take after shock . The beauty of renekton is he can use every thing and work . however with him I always build defense first then offense . Press the attack, grasp, Aftershock thunderlords , lethal tempo all works because of his ability to dive cc w. W all count as basics so literally the only offense item you need is triforce and maybe blade of the ruined king. But I also take bounty Hunter because your q heals you so you'll heal for more