Dear Riot: Please add an Experience per second passive to the Sightstone Support Items (Eye Items)

Tolinar··2 votes·387 views

Quick thought from a Support Main. There is no major advantage to buying the Eye items. The stat balls are almost always inferior to the Actives of all three of the Gold Income items, which provide major useful effects on relative cooldowns.

But a Support who buys a Vision3 Item is clearly doubling down on stability. They are buying lots of wards and denying themselves their strongest Gold Income item's active. What's more, they are going to actively lose EXP while warding, since you almost always want to ward in safety - away from fights and EXP sources.

The better a job the support does of keeping up Vision Control on a map, the more likely they slip behind the other players, and if a fight breaks out while warding and they miss Assist Bonuses, or worse - get caught and killed warding - there can be no practical way to catch back up.

Adding an EXP Passive to the Eye items pretty much ensures only Supports get the bonus, or players willing to invest a large chunk of their gold in Wards/Warding. A player who feels secure and wants to ride the wave of power, can get the Tier 3 item with active. Someone slipping behind, and needs a leg up, can focus on the utility aspect of being a support, and get a boost back into the game, in the process.

Lastly, it frees up the all-important item slot, so as the game carries on, the player can keep up better than those who doubled down on the Active-effect Supp items!

You can of course make these Eye items a bit more expensive, to reflect the new EXP Boost effect. =)

7 Comments

TotalJerk3 votes

Junglers would love this. Especially junglers that gank a lot.

PDE5 Inhib2 votes

But then Lee Sin gets a buff...and I don't like that.

CrazFight 1 votes

I would disagree, Im seeing more and more Supports starting to get "eye items" (Including LCS), So I think there fine as they are and giving them a buff would make them the over powered go to item.

Irelia Bot1 votes

I would rather see it get a passive increasing exp by 10% for every level ally champions who are nearby have over the support.

Have that level 14 and 13 near you when you are level 11? You are getting a 50% exp boost for being near them.

Compensation for this would have to be no boost to shared exp which is 30.4% last I checked which was increased from 26.1% for the Hec patch. This means that if you are hanging around a lane too much you will in fact hurt the exp gains of that lane more then you are helping.

Erockandroll1 votes

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I would rather see it get a passive increasing exp by 10% for every level ally champions who are nearby have over the support.

Have that level 14 and 13 near you when you are level 11? You are getting a 50% exp boost for being near them.

That one way to bind the item to the "XP famished role." Yet that's kind of awkward, because you have to be close to someone, when the whole reason your behind in XP is because your obligated to roam, and grant vision. I would think something that encourage roaming, (haven't seen any item like that) would be better. Except that it might get abused by Junglers.

Irelia Bot1 votes

Well part of this is also to get rid of supports being the ADC baby sitter which has been locked into place for years. If the support would change lanes it would make for the game to be a bit more interesting.

I want to see that part of the meta ended.

I don't see it being able to get abused by junglers unless they were set way behind for some reason since it is dependant on the ally first of all being a higher level and second being willing to give up half of their exp in order to boost exp of the jungler.

Espy Psyche1 votes

It won't be abused by junglers because junglers have too much shit to buy early (when it matters).

Junglers need to get their jungle item upgraded to max fast, whether they're a Warrior, Runic Echoes, Cinderhulk or Devourer jungler. Junglers need boots quickly to have the movement speed to gank lanes. If we did this, they would also need Eye items (which provide the jungler no benefit until fully upgraded other than the small GP10 passives and weak stats).

It wouldn't buff Lee Sin either. item 2301 has AP and MP5, both of which are useless on Lee since he doesn't scale with AP and has no mana. item 2302 has MP5, again still useless since Lee doesn't use mana. It also replaces its GP10 passive with Favor, which Lee can't proc unless he's ganking a lane. item 2303 doesn't have useless stats, but it also has most of its value in Spoils of War, which Lee also has a hard time proccing if he's in the jungle. He'd have to save up the passive stacks, gank a lane, power down the wave after the gank with the allied laner nearby to get the stacks off.

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