The argument against Omnistone - a pointless rune.

Tolinar·11/13/2019, 4:48:24 AM·74 votes·20,592 views

TL;DR SUMMARY There isn't a situation where you would rather have a random keystone over the best keystone for your character.

I think Omnistone is a badly designed rune that will discourage people from playing well (A trap rune).

Let's go over the problem.


The Advantage

Omnistone grants a better cooldown on its use than SOME runes.

For Predator, the cooldown goes from 150 to 8 seconds. For Aftershock, the cooldown goes from 35 to 8 seconds. For Electrocute it's 20 to 8. For Arcane Comet it's up to 20, to 8. For Phase Rush it's 15 to 8.

This value changes to 12 for Ranged Champions.

The Disadvantages

However, for all other runes there is no significant importance. For Arcane Comet at a high level, Fleet Footwork, Glacial Augment, Grasp of the Undying, Hail of Blades, Lethal Tempo, and Summon Aery, the cooldown was already lower than 8 seconds and you don't get a shorter cooldown.

It goes without saying that every champion has an ideal Keystone or two. Let's take Nami as an example.

Nami's best Keystone is widely accepted to be Summon Aery. Nami has both healing and damaging spells, and Aery buffs both. In addition, Nami's skill Tidecaller's Blessing synergizes with Ardent Censer while she uses Summon Aery - the buff which normally just boosts autoattacks will also apply a small shield - which in turn will trigger Ardent Censer's attackbuff. It is considered the best because it's highly adaptive, requires no modification to your combat style, and offers a further adaptive benefit if you do switch your items to suit it.

Other suitable Keystones include Arcane Comet, because Nami easily slows and stuns which raises the damage Comet can inflict, Electrocute as Nami can quickly connect 3 sources of damage using slows and stuns, and potentially Phase Rush on a skilled Nami, letting her poke herself into a speed boost to initiate safely.

Nami won't benefit from Aftershock much because she's too squishy to get that close. Predator might be useful for joining battle but she should already be there. Fleet Footwork, Hail of Blades and Lethal Tempo all require a level of aggression that might be dangerous and generally unsuited to Nami. Glacial Augment might work, but she already has skills that apply similar effects and the slows will not stack well. And while Grasp of the Undying might be meaningful on a hyper-aggressive Nami in making her less squishy, the bonus health from using it twice in a game randomly, would be totally meaningless.

Between Summon Aery, Arcane Comet, Electrocute, and maybe Phase Rush, Nami has 4 runes she could potentially use, and 7 runes she shouldn't really consider.

And even assuming she only gets the 4 she wants, her fighting style would need to change to suit her rune. Suddenly getting an unexpected speed boost from Phase Rush could be fatal, steering Nami straight into danger. Needing to combo to inflict an electrocute, then land a slow to hit a Comet, then finally throw a heal while you have Aery - needing to constantly change to match your rune will be inefficient and confusing.


My Verdict

If you want to have any one of the Keystones more than the others, why ever switch? There's no incentive to do so. The slight cooldown advantage you might get is not worth the likelihood you won't get that Keystone back the next time you need it. You could end up getting Predator, your needed Keystone, then using it to engage combat - getting to use other Keystones while Predator cools down - and then ... have Predator come up at a time you can't use it and watching it expire, or missing an opportunity because you were stuck with Grasp of the Undying.

There isn't a situation where you would rather have a random keystone over the best keystone for your character.

So Omnistone is a pointless keystone and a trap.

86 Comments

Dope Solo11/13/2019, 5:00:48 AM40 votes

I saw this and thought rito must be out of ideas.

Fella Air11/13/2019, 11:19:05 AM25 votes

What if Omnistone allowed you to pick and choose six minor runes from ANY tree, instead of keystone + 3 from your primary and 2 from your secondary- At the expense of not actually having a keystone. Do you guys remember back when masteries were a thing, how there were specialized pages that didn't go all the way down to the end of any particular tree, they just picked and chose from all 3 of them? I think it would fit the inspiration tree very well and add a lot of strategic depth to the rune system which, right now, is actually pretty stagnant. And if that was too weak, they could buff it to allow you to grab runes from the same row in any tree as well- So you could take all four "Hunter" runes, for instance. I personally think that would be a bit OP but then again, for not having a keystone at all, it might work out ok.

Just my two cents. As many people have pointed out, Omnistone in its current state is utterly useless. [zombie-brand-facepalm]

FelixFurry11/13/2019, 10:07:23 AM10 votes

This keystone is more random and useless than Kleptomancy. Granted, it has its advantages, but do they really outweigh the cost of taking the rune? Why would you take Omnistone if you could just take a more consistent, guaranteed synergy rune? The randomization of the rune itself is its downfall. There is no reason as to why you would take this over any other rune that has better consistent synergy with your champion.

Kleptomancy was toxic because it allowed users to advance their lead faster than their opponent, and was often used in cheese strats to gain huge gold advantages over the enemy (see the Spellthief/Kleptomancy meta). The inherent RNG and gold advantage made it difficult to balance because it was either too strong by giving to much, or too weak by giving nothing. Those were the two options.

Omnistone will suffer a worse fate. The randomness of the rune choices leave very little options for intelligent play. How are you going to be able to predict how a fight will turn out if you don't even know what your keystone will be when it starts? You have time to see your rune, but you can't always play around it so quickly during the game.

Omnistone needs to be changed before they push it out. I think Kleptomancy has its problems and needs to be removed, but this is not a better solution.

FrancisMuni11/13/2019, 11:44:29 AM7 votes

To be fair, it's existence removes Cleptomancy, so it's a win for me.

MagicFlyingLlama11/13/2019, 4:58:29 AM7 votes

Just make it always give Conqueror, problem solved!

CaptainAntiHeroz11/13/2019, 12:56:23 PM6 votes

[slayer-jinx-unamused] at least this rune makes reporting for trolling easier

Janakin11/13/2019, 1:26:34 PM5 votes

I mean, it takes like 3 seconds for an average IQ person to realize the rune is very poor design. I hope they don't release it.

Sirsir11/13/2019, 3:24:01 PM2 votes

Memestone

It will be used by people who aren't really trying, show up in a few highlight videos where it gave an amazing combo, and inevitably break the game when a pro finds a champ that can actually use almost ALL the keystones well and is suddenly a nightmare out of nowhere (Urgot?).

I hope they take a few out of the rune. One Aery proc isn't worth having, and relatively few champs can use it defensively. Aftershock shouldn't show up on champs that can't use it. It's anyones guess how useful D Harvest will be when you can't stack it reliably...

Yordle Gunner11/14/2019, 12:55:53 AM2 votes

The rune is good because it forces your opponent to constantly adapt. Skilled players should be able to use Omni Stone efforts to keep their opponent off their guard. Saying every champion has a best keystone isn't right. There are different ways to play champions, even pros don't always do it right. I took Trist top a year before Korea did. There are lots of ways to play people just need to think for themselves for once and figure it out.

Metal Janna11/14/2019, 1:02:05 AM2 votes

{quoted}

There isn't a situation where you would rather have a random keystone over the best keystone for your character.

The situation you are failing to imagine is the situation in which there is no best keystone for your character.

GripaAviara11/13/2019, 11:16:13 AM2 votes

I don't get why they don't tweak klepto, but simply remove it

The item part of the rune is fun. There are many ways they can tweak the rune:

  • Increase the frequency of gaining items and make the items 0g to sell.
  • make it trigger on spells also and decrease the value of "a trigger", make it's gold generation not random or increase CD, that way champs like Ez can't abuse it
  • Make the rune have a big CD and give a lot of items on the trigger
Soul Dealer11/13/2019, 5:09:13 AM2 votes

There is a champ that this could be good on: Jax. Jax benefits from more keystones then most champs so if you did a specific build tailored towards this rune it might be viable on him. As a Jax main I will be experimenting with this in norms to see if I can find a viable build.

arcDapineapple11/13/2019, 6:28:22 AM2 votes

i would rather this keystone work like specialist in call of duty. It would only unlock all your secondary keystone when you get 7 kills reset to 0 if you die. Be great for solo players who are trying to climb but suck in pro play

Sír Alonne11/21/2019, 9:25:37 PM1 votes

As someone who abused GP with Klepto (feel free to hate me for that) , this stone is pretty much useless . And it destroyed my entire GP gameplay cause i had to switch from Klepto to Grasp and i am not familiar with that rune or its bonusses. The rune is just terrible(omnistone) cause there is not a single champion that synergize well with more than 3 keystones (except Lethal-PTA-Conqueror that can work with some champions like Yasuo or Tryndamere ). They should've just removed Klepto or change it to something completely different rather than a useless rune like that. And on top of that , it is pure RNG, which makes things even worse.

BLIGHTBRINGER11/13/2019, 12:48:37 PM1 votes

They should also remove Unsealed Spellbook, nobody uses it and it literally doesn't benefit any champion directly...

It's just mostly there to try to cheese in some way.

Saezio11/13/2019, 2:59:06 PM1 votes

What if omnistone allowed the user to change keystone every X minutes with the drawback you play the first 6-7 minutes of the game with NO keystone?

Agent Corgi11/14/2019, 12:43:04 AM1 votes

It's like, they wanted to take Kleptomancy out of the game but couldn't find a suitable replacement. Honestly, I can see this Keystone either being buffed throughout Preseason or being reworked before Mid Season next year.

Okraki11/14/2019, 1:56:41 AM1 votes

Ya i thought it was some type of joke. Only reason i could ever see this being somewhat useful is the enemy never know what you using, though even still kinda of pointless for a unreliable rune. I don't think even a fresh (new) player would even use it let alone a pro or anyone who played the game for quite some time. Riots been kind of fucking up in its "creative" department, i must say, this as a new rune, the recent amount of backlash relating to skins, the honor system, and these boat load of "new" games, which i really don't see anyone ever playing, like TFT its a pretty fun thing, i'll give them that, but all these new "Diablo" type games, "Fighting" games, and something now with a first person shooter? I don't think Riot is really heading the right direction with League.

VampiricLlama11/14/2019, 3:44:24 AM1 votes

People love lootboxes right? So what if, get this: We make a lootbox KEYSTONE!

~Recent Riot focus group summary.

RyzeRework11/14/2019, 4:44:22 AM1 votes

I mean your either ganna roll electrocute into dark harvest and just out damage or you can get grasp then fleet and it would be good sustain there is a high roll chance for sure

astralwit11/14/2019, 10:14:59 AM1 votes

Exactly my impression! It seems like a gimmick that doesn't add meaningful gameplay. Champions generally have runes that are synergistic and no one really wants to have some random keystone. I think Klepto is just as much of a gimmick.

NuggetMilk11/15/2019, 5:22:29 AM1 votes

I hope they don't release it and just remove klepto anyways.