Instead of disturbing his other abilities?
Sion
Decimating Smash (Q) minimum damage increased from 20/40/60/80/100 to 30/48/65/83/100
minimum damage AD ratio changed from 65% at all ranks to 40/45/50/55/60%
maximum damage increased from 60/120/180/240/300 to 90/143/195/248/300
If you wanna entice us to max other abilties, at least address Sion's main problem instead of avoiding it.
koshkyra13 votesOh, a tank is doing too much damage with his E?
Lets change his Q
nelogis3 votesThe Ornn special
Spoofghoul2 votesWhy would you nerf the E ??? it might work but is not the right way to go
It has counterplay
as a sion main there are reasons why you max E first
It's more reliable, It has better wave clear The range helps It scales with ranks
Meanwhile sion Q
Scales with levels ranks and gold/items because of the total ad ratio if i level up my q deals more damage but my e wont Overall whether i max W or E total damage output wise it doesnt matter, however if i max E half of it is more reliable and is also magic damage Meanwhile people can recall out of your Q if you are gonna charge for max damage
Buffing the damage on it in the early game does jack shit ill still max E
Also the waveclear on Q is bad it's damage vs minions and monsters is heavily handicapped
**If they want me to max the Q first there are 2 things riot can do
revert the snapcast range nerf to make it more reliable in combat Get rid of the handicap vs minions/monsters, this can scale down to 0 handicap with rank**
Troll for Trump2 votesIt punishes you for trying to cs. Sion should not be a lane bully or even remotely oppressive in lane since he's more focused on roaming everywhere with ult.
The synergy with comet is obnoxious but not unique to him, and Riot already nerfed it.
There's no problem with Sion maxing E, his E just does too much damage as is
Shuriman Curator2 votes[{quoted}](name=Ðownright Darius,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LNTfPErU,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-04-07T21:26:22.205+0000)
It punishes you for trying to cs. Sion should not be a lane bully or even remotely oppressive in lane since he's more focused on roaming everywhere with ult.
The synergy with comet is obnoxious but not unique to him, and Riot already nerfed it.
There's no problem with Sion maxing E, his E just does too much damage as is
Agreed with you entirely, the damage is what's stupid
Hibeki2 votesSion doesnt even roam at this point, my most successful build is more of a split pusher
Spoofghoul2 votesi should not have to try to avoid enemy spells hitting me weeeh weeeh mimimimi weeeeh
all you got to do is walk perpendicular
it has some of the easiest counter play in the game people are too lazy to do it here is a skill that you can outplay with skill expression you know that magical thing, skill expression, the boards has been asking for Well turns out they don't really want it
** Sion should absolutely be a lane bully mate because he has no lategame **
Troll for Trump1 votesi should not have to try to avoid enemy spells hitting me weeeh weeeh mimimimi weeeeh
Wow you're a dick. I told you, most top laners simply don't have the tools to avoid his E at the given projectile speed, range, and the unique way it interacts with minions allowing him to lane bully as a tank.
all you got to do is walk perpendicular
All you got to do as Sion is.... aim. Wow. Nice. Or, since, they're melee, just E whenever they walk up to CS, and watch as they get caught between minions.
it has some of the easiest counter play in the game
Not in top lane, no
Sion shouldn't be a lane bully. No tank should be. They have utility and cc in place of dmg, and should never be able to be a lane bully. In addition, Sion already has free roam with his ult. That is how he gets his early pressure. There is absolutely no need for him to out dmg other laners on top of that.
He does have a lategame because he has CC. He can at least peel or engage. Compared to most top laners, he's much more useful lategame.
I really don't think you know much about lane interactions in top lane; you're making it way too simple.
On top of that, you're also unnecessarily rude for no reason. Have to ask you to stop being toxic.
Glory ln Death1 votesAlso the waveclear on Q is bad it's damage vs minions and monsters is heavily handicapped
Ok, so why nerf Q's damage?
Tèrminus2 votesSion's E even has a balance lever on it in the form of its amplified damage when firing a minion.
Perhaps a 30% damage amp is too much for how easy it is to use?
Could either lower the amp or make the increased damage fall off from hitting other enemies, back down to the base damage?
