Played Full-Tank ... got one shotted

Sydney26··7 votes·2,068 views

Last week i played Shen ... my first champion i fell in love with in season 3 (ok after the rework i dont love him anymore) ... i played against an Akali ... at Level 11 she one shotted me under my tower ... i had only Tank items

compared to akali i have no sustain, less dmg, no waveclear ... to make up for this i am a TANK .. i thought ... but how am i supposed to protect carries if i cant even protect me against a single champion in a 1vs1 under my tower

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Dynikus9 votes

I just looked at your match history, because this sounded pretty fishy. You have 1 shen game within the last 5 months, which was 6 days ago. I'm assuming that's the game you're referring to. You claim that at level 11 you had a spirit visage, were 0/0/0 (as was akali), and Akali 1 shot you. The only items she had were gunblade, t1 boots, and "something else".

Looking at the actual timeline of the game, you didn't buy a spirit visage until 26 minutes into the game, at which point you were 4/6, akali was 5/3. Akali had a 2k gold lead over you, and was level 14 to your 13. She had a gunblade, oblivion orb, and either sheen and blasting wand, or a completed lichbane.

Unless you played this game on a different account, none of what you said happened? If the game is still in your match history, please go back and download the game, then record of a clip of the 1 shot. Otherwise, I'm calling bullshit.

DuskDaUmbreon8 votes

The game in question: https://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUW1/3845424136/33610975?tab=builds

You had no significant MR and no significant health. Your first complete item was a Sunfire 20 minutes in (which was roughly 4 minutes after the supposed one-shot).

It took you 8 minutes to even buy a goddamned item 1033. Before that, you bought, in order: item 1029 at 3 minutes, and a item 1006 and item 1028 at 5:30.

8 goddamned minutes to buy MR versus an AP assassin. Your build at the time of the one-shot was item 1031 item 3211 item 3047 item 3751 item 1006 (and maybe a potion).

You spent enough gold for an item and a half and you threw it away on trivial shit. You had enough gold to buy Shen's much more favorable item 3748 and item 3211, but you shit it down the drain on 2 trivial components and the wrong boots.

You could have easily won that by buying the right items - One of which was the item Shen always fucking wants except in the shittiest of lanes. It's like fucking buying item 1038 item 1052 item 3117 item 1051 item 1029 on Nasus and wondering why Vayne is fucking you over.

This has nothing to do with balance, this has everything to do with you building like shit and playing like shit.

Silly Neeko2 votes

How many kills and how much farm did she have over you?

Also, what items did you and she have?

Sydney263 votes

me and her were sitting at an 0-0-0 KDA

she had gunblade and tier 1 boots and something else

i had spirit visage and tier one boots and something else

Silly Neeko3 votes

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me and her were sitting at an 0-0-0 KDA

she had gunblade and tier 1 boots and something else

i had spirit visage and tier one boots and something else

Then i highly doubt it was anything like a 1 shot. She may have COMBOED you to death... (which btw, i suggest adaptive helm into her and not visage rush. You have no healing so why visage?) But it was not a 1 shot unless you were 50% hp.

TheWizardM2 votes

As someone who has been on the other end of this, I can confirm it is quite doable to oneshot a tank at lvl 11 with just when item, especially when using Dark Harvest,

Thefrostyviking1 votes

Why dafq is dark harvest special?

Electrolute actually does more damage if single target for ages.

Its not until teamfights/lategame that dark harvest really starts to shine.

TheWizardM1 votes

Because electrocute is usually on cooldown, whereas DH almost never is.

Thefrostyviking1 votes

On single target or failing to reset dark harvest has a 45 seconds one.

So, electrolute is superior for single target beyond all doubt, not only damage wise but also with a 25 seconds cooldown.

So given the relevant discussion, Akali somehow bursting a sion under tower when she has gunblade and he a visage, dark harvest isnt anything special or noteworthy at all.

Rather what is noteworthy is that she killed him despite a inferior keystone, and it makes one wonder how.

TheWizardM1 votes

I did not mention DH because it had anything to do with the akali game, I mentioned DH becaue I was comparing to the DH Lux game I played. Also, you almost always reset DH due to how bursty the game is at the moment, so DH usually does more damage per game, whereas electro does more damage per proc. It's really just the choice between consistency and burst.

Silly Neeko4 votes

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As someone who has been on the other end of this, I can confirm it is quite doable to oneshot a tank at lvl 11 with just when item, especially when using Dark Harvest,

Ive been on the tank end of it too. There is no way that the akali did that unless the "other item" was a very high damage item/lichbane type thing and the Shen was 2 levels below with a ruby crystal as their other item (maybe). Even then, it would be hard as hell.

If she played WELL she might have COMBOED them down, with a Q, W, Q, E, E, R, Q, R type combo with autos mixed in, but even then all it would have taken is Shen hitting his E and using his W to completely mess it up for Akali.

Shen's E would make it so Akali had to keep autoing and stay visible, thus he has the advantage under tower, his W makes it so you literally just laugh at her first auto or two empowered by hitting the person....

Plus, why didnt Shen back up behind the tower a bit more or go infront a bit more?

I suspect some really bad playing on shen's part, some glorifying about how much health he had (and what their item conditions were like), mixed with good playing from the Akali..

TheWizardM1 votes

I agree maybe he had a level disadvantage (Though at lvl 11 1 level difference is good enough due to ult).

dunder kill3 votes

Hmmmmmm no you weren't. We can see exactly who got kills and stuff when

http://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=Sydney26

You think item 3211 makes you full tank lul. You also were down 40 farm and a few levels. Nice try guy

I had spirit visage and tier one boots and something else

Nope. Lieeeesssssssssss

DuskDaUmbreon4 votes

False. Her first kill on you was 16 minutes in, when she was 1/0, and you were 2/1.

Her last kill on you was right before you bought Spirit Visage, when she was 4/3/7 (possibly with less assists) and you were 3/6/6 (again, possibly with less assists).

At no point in time when either of you killed the other were either of you 0/0/0.

Jamaree2 votes

When and where did this happen, can we get a link to said game or are we supposed to take this at face value?

DuskDaUmbreon1 votes

https://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUW1/3845424136/33610975?tab=builds is the link. It happened either ~16 minutes in (when he had zero complete items) or ~26 minutes in, before he finish a Spirit Visage.

Jamaree1 votes

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https://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUW1/3845424136/33610975?tab=builds is the link. It happened either ~16 minutes in (when he had zero complete items) or ~26 minutes in, before he finish a Spirit Visage.

WOW, PEOPLE LYING TO PUSH THEIR NARRATIVE OF ASSASSIN HATE WHILE PEOPLE UPVOTE WITHOUT RESEARCH, NEVER SEEN THAT BEFORE

usul12021 votes

As shen both of your main defensive options are 'active' mitigation, through your shield and your dodge zone. Was your shield off cooldown and did you effectively use your q to prevent her from proc img her passive?

SuicidePlank1 votes

But she has such a low Winrate, why would you nerf her???????????

Bobloser35551 votes

its not about Akali the op saying the damage generally is too high

SuicidePlank1 votes

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its not about Akali the op saying the damage generally is too high

Akalis DMG is too high as well, lel.

Wasn't saying Akali is op btw.

Bobloser35551 votes

you missing the point of the op. He saying damage is so high that tanks get one shot. It's not about assassins being op or anything.

SuicidePlank1 votes

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you missing the point of the op. He saying damage is so high that tanks get one shot. It's not about assassins being op or anything.

Neither is it my point lol.

boricCentaur11 votes

The fucking most akali can do 2190 and going by the fact that your shen with item 3065 you should have about 49 to 50% damage reduction meaning akali is only going to do about 1100 and shen at the point has about 1925 hp meaning you should have about 800hp left so no it is impossible that she one could one shot you or two she could dive you and kill you and keep in mind that my names are using akali's at the highest point and I used only magic damage since if I spit the damage in to ap and ad she would do less damage im also not taking shen shields into account too so akali would actually do so much less. So why are you lying?????.

Kitty 9 Lives1 votes

One shot as a 10k+ Health & 280+ resistance Ornn. Buff tanks, nerf true damage. Only mordekaiser had conqueror. Here is the link.

https://youtu.be/QRF06V3_2V0

AlienPrimate1 votes

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One shot

First off, look at the date of the post. Nobody cares about this post anymore so either make a new one or find something that is still relevant to reply to.

Now to your post, "one shot" ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

You tanked 3 people for 7 seconds straight after going in 1v3 like a moron. One of those people happened to be a Vayne who is designed to kill tanks in the late game. A one shot is when you die to a single combo from a single champion like Veigar or Garen hitting you with Q + R or Hecarim coming in to kill you with a single Q + auto attack at 1k movement speed. That will never happen to a tank so stop deluding yourself to think that you are not tanky when taking 10x longer to die than any squishy would have in the situation you cited.

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