Yi NEEDS the Ekko treatment

Fadedpf·2/22/2016, 7:03:17 PM·56 votes·3,731 views

A tank that can stick to anyone, melt anyone in about 2 seconds or less with 3 damage types, and wont die because he has the ability to negate damage with his Q dodge, W damage reduction and HES A TANK. It has to be one of the most disgusting things to see and theres practically no counterplay other than, "dumpster him and his team, and his turrets and base before he can get 2 items and destroys your team all by himself!"

and needs to be looked at and fixed too. both items are just horrible to play against and clearly have their many abuse cases

62 Comments

qetzel2/22/2016, 9:17:31 PM14 votes

I don't think this will solve the Yi Issue.

Firstly, Yi is not like Ekko. He isn't building full tank. His first two items are damage items (Guinsoo's and Devourer) and even his defensive items are sort of hybrid. Secondly, the majority of Yi's damage with this build comes from his kit and on hit effects. Sure, nerfing his base damages would hurt him (as the would any champion), but not to the extent that they hurt Ekko (who relied on his high base damage). His damage at the moment already comes from items. This is suggested by his win rate/game time which is 48% for games shorter than 25 minutes increasing to 54.5% at the highest point.

These points suggest that the Ekko treatment will not necessarily work on Yi. It may make him weaker overall but it won't push him away from a tankier build.

zecastar2/22/2016, 7:16:55 PM7 votes

Let me know in which region's LCS this super OP Yi is pick/ban. Run a proper comp with good poke and engage/disengage and he's not that scary as long as you go for objectives and don't waste time as he's farming.

WadeWilson13372/22/2016, 10:37:53 PM6 votes

"Just cc him" - people who play Yi.

XIII Vanitas2/23/2016, 12:45:24 AM4 votes

I don't think so. Right now, the only champion that needs the Ekko treatment is Fiora, who has way too much damage, mobility, and utility while building like a juggernaut.

Silents4292/22/2016, 9:22:29 PM3 votes

A tank that can stick to anyone, melt anyone in about 2 seconds or less with 3 damage types, and wont die because he has the ability to negate damage with his Q dodge, W damage reduction and HES A TANK.

Such hyperbole.

I wonder if it occurs to anyone why champions like XinZhao and MasterYi fail so horribly the higher the elo.

Clearly counterplay exists, because it gets used by the much smarter and skilled players, and I do mean outside of just focusing the Yi.

Emperor Time2/22/2016, 11:41:21 PM2 votes

If you want Yi to stop building Bruiser items then he would need a completely new kit so he wouldn't have to build those items cause if you think that Alpha strike is enough to protect him then you are sorely mistaken. He would need some busted mechanic like Yasuo windwall or Fiora Riposte

Drehirth2/22/2016, 10:07:46 PM2 votes

Another thing to note: it is a myth that he is bad at higher elo...

OyddAWqJ5r2/23/2016, 8:24:28 AM2 votes

No, I think

BONUS TRUE DAMAGE: 10 / 15 / 20 / 25 / 30 (+ 10 / 12.5 / 15 / 17.5 / 20% AD)

Needs to be looked at first. Honestly the flat amounts shouldn't even exist. It should just be the % AD so he is absolutely forced to build it.

GamblerOfLives2/26/2016, 7:29:02 PM1 votes

play kha'zix or rengar into xin or master y...you will destroy them in a 1 vs 1;)

ModCaptainMårvelous2/23/2016, 6:51:07 AM1 votes

Uh no.

Yi's AD Ratios are damn high: Q is 1.0, 10% Bonus AD on E (With a 20% Bonus to true damage at max rank) on top of strong self-steroids. Lowering base/buffing ratios would break him twice as hard.

PeachsProperty2/23/2016, 7:48:23 AM1 votes

you trying to hurt koggles gameplay?

isnt riot hurting the poor guy enoguh as is D:?

you bully >:(!

Ludovico2/23/2016, 9:44:41 AM1 votes

What? Are you insane? Tank Ekko was seriously OPOPOP. Like, even when he build tank, he had to hit his 3 skillshots to actually contribute to a fight! Yi is so much more difficult to play with his insane Q mechanics. Same with Xin. Or Jax. So much skill and devourer required to actually win 1 v 5.

#ritologic

The Deckowner2/23/2016, 3:27:53 PM1 votes

its rageblade, not yi.

btw better nerf irelia.

Kaokentake2/26/2016, 7:17:28 PM1 votes

i said it when sated was released that i always believed the item was bad game design

sated is bad design because it gives too much power to certain champions that the item favors

yi is the champion in the game that sated favors most

on master yi, sated devourer gives about 5000gold of damage for around 2000gold. simply put its OP as hell

yi doesnt even need any nerfs. the only thing that is bad game design is sated

is sated was removed and there was only warrior, yi would be fine

the ONLY thing pushing yi's power over the line is sated multiplying his true damage, along with other onhits since yi ultimate gives him max attackspeed easily

if sated was removed things like titanic / rageblade would still exist for yi, but it would be fine imo. the main thing making yi broken is sated devourer

yi DOES NOT need nerfs

sated devour DOES need a rework. the sated hit needs to be removed and replaced with something imo replace the sated hit with just +15 true damage and +15 hp gained per attack. that seems fine

yi is ONLY broken because of sated

sated needs nerfs. not yi

can you agree on that?

SwiftKitten882/26/2016, 7:25:12 PM1 votes

i agree that MasterYi is an issue.. but i really think it its HIM that is causing the issue.. like you stated its item 3931 and item 3124 that needs to be fixed.

yi without these items really isn't that big of an issue. its the fact he can built TWO damage items and be unstoppable instead of say 5 or six damage items before becoming unstoppable.. that's the difference.