So, uh, all of the new jungle champ buffs sucked

WTBeGirl100EUhr·2/21/2020, 1:15:00 AM·1 votes·2,660 views

None of them hit even 45% winrate based off of day 1 u.gg data. What was the point of these changes?

EDIT: Posting some stats to give some context based off of global plat+ stats on op.gg at time of edit: Garen: 34.97%>43.82% Darius: 34.45%>40.72% Diana: 44.7% > 45.56% (whoops) Mordekaiser: 42.71% > 43.55% Gnar: 35.14% > 36.39% Talon: 33.33% > 37.3% Zed: 31.95% > 35.06%

17 Comments

General Esdeath 2/21/2020, 1:53:38 AM7 votes

I think we need to give some time for this one. This is a pretty big change. Not only do jungle mains never touch these champs, the people who main these champs don't jungle.

Worst JG Wins2/21/2020, 1:32:32 AM2 votes

Don't how that's possible with Diana as she could already do fine in the JG.... but it's to be expected with the rest, they don't really have JG kits.

2gudaiya2/21/2020, 1:55:31 AM1 votes

need more dmg.

Illabethe2/21/2020, 2:03:49 AM1 votes

Talon should be 51-54%. Some players are intentionally fudging the numbers. Garen should easily be 51%

Zetto2/21/2020, 7:28:08 AM1 votes

Ah yes. Because the day one stats for a bunch of champions that have never been widely played as junglers, who are now being played as junglers, are going to be wonderful and totally accurate, when people are still ironing out builds/runes.

200 IQ.

Sylaelque2/21/2020, 9:19:27 AM1 votes

Actually Garen jungle so broken just you haven't see yet. Those sites still needs more data.

PhearBunny2/21/2020, 11:07:17 AM1 votes

Leona was the most impacted jungler by the changes. Shes doing well.

before this patch she had a tough choice between surviving with Cinderhulk, or being threatening with Warrior. Now shes both tanky AND threatening with Cinderhulk. A HUGE improvement for her jungle power.

Darkdemon6532/21/2020, 12:55:09 PM1 votes

{quoted} What was the point of these changes?

To make them better. Do you not see merit in doing something unless that something immediately accomplishes perfection?

CelegaS2/22/2020, 2:07:50 AM1 votes

Widening the Jungle Champ Pool When we’re digging into our results and follow ups from this year’s preseason, we were really struck by a problem in the Jungle role that we’d never been able to fix - throughout League's entire history, low Elo players have preferred the jungle position least of all 5 positions, regardless of whether jungle is strong or weak relative to the other 4 positions. We think this will take a variety of changes to fix in the long term, but we want to also do some short-term work to improve jungle appeal. In 10.4 we’re going to try adding a handful of champs that we (and you) love into the jungle pool. We’d be doing very focused changes that buff these champs' jungle clears but leave their lanes unchanged. Not all of these may ship but here is our current list:

Garen (we’re also doing some light changes to make bruiser items more viable compared to attack speed builds) Diana Zed Talon Darius

From Quick Gameplay Thoughts: February 7

LanceTheJungler2/21/2020, 1:43:29 AM1 votes

https://imgur.com/a/TMtM657 Just a worse Rengar TBH