If someone tries to use Naut Support because it was in the LCS

Spacesuit Spiff··12 votes·1,780 views

Pick Soraka. Poke him down, outsustain him, drop the silence on him when he hooks so that he can't finish his combo. I play it a lot and there's realistically no way for a Naut to beat a good Soraka.

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aaronconlin6 votes

I've played support Nautilus before it was in the LCS, and the King of CC fears no goat.

Kitten of Evil3 votes

I used to run Naut support back in S3 and 4, but got flamed because "he's a worse version of Thresh"

OperationDEEZ11 votes

Well so is every other support

RasCaelestis4 votes

Same here. One of my friends always gave me crap for it by saying stuff like "Ugh. Not this again. Pick Leo for stronger CC. Pick Thresh for better hooks. Pick Blitz for the same reason. Why are you even doing this? I just want to win one game tonight..." Okay, sure. The 3/2/29 Nautilus is what made that game hard, not the 2/12/4 Fizz.

The day Nautilus support got played in the LCS, I logged in to see my Facebook full of "I'M SORRY!!! I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS VIABLE!! I THOUGHT YOU WERE JUST GETTING LUCKY WHEN YOU DID IT!" messages. Meta sheep... Yeah. I got "lucky" when I won about 80% of my games as Naut support. "Luck" was the only thing involved there. -___-

Fashion Mage2 votes

Your friend sounds like a tool. I had a few friends like that, back before Soraka's rework, and before Soraka top/mid became FotM, I always got flamed by them for doing it.

Drukyul4 votes

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I used to run Naut support back in S3 and 4, but got flamed because "he's a worse version of Thresh"

Nah, he's a worse version of Leona. That's why you ban her and then you have no competition.

Nucleophilic atk2 votes

Whaaaat if they don't pick Raka and you can pick Naut after :D.

I've had Naut supports before LCS. I like him as support since the person playing him usually knew what he was dong. I'm afraid that will change with LCS picking him :(. Now a bunch of randoms, with no clue how to play him, will pick him and make me hate him.

BlackRaven2 votes

yea but late game comes and naut has some takn items so he becomes really useful vs a soraka.

Only Play Darius2 votes

I have seen Nautilus support used well before he showed up in LCS. To be honest it makes a lot of sense.

This was before cinderhulk so tank junglers were still useless, his kit can actually make him a viable support. He may not be able to directly buff/heal his ally like meta supports, but he has enough CC to turn around dive attempts in an instant.

3tyson1 votes

Interesting what about a bad soraka ?

Maximum Zilean4 votes

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Interesting what about a bad soraka ?

A bad Soraka blows her E for poke, gets hooked 5 seconds later and dies.

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

Or a stupid one who likes to go all the way to the front of her ADC & minions just to Q poke.

WhiskerWow1 votes

Hehehehe, yes, counter-pick the FotM... >:-) Soraka

Silents4291 votes

Pretty sure Soraka just beats any support with long range poking. I hardly see her though so I don't know.

Guess a good Nautilus can just bait the silence out, not that hard. Also I think if he hooks someone and gets rooter, his passive still triggers so silencing him doesn't really stop him.

PokladnicaZla1 votes

I tryed Naut supp 6-8 months ago,the only problem I had with him,were his mana costs and mana regen.How do you people deal with them?I would really like to know,he seems like he could be really viable in some situations/team comps.

blubabby2 votes

Basically never cast your E or W unless you absolutely have to. Buy a lot of mana pots. Be super judicious about when to engage.

PokladnicaZla1 votes

Thank you good sir. :))))

Nautoday1 votes

Two years later here we are. His mana regen has been destroyed, his E mana costs have increased twice and damage reduced twice, and his CD has gone up. Fun times.

Miirik1 votes

who played him in LCS as support? I been doing support nautilus since at least summer of last year

supes the lost1 votes

It was the Fnatic support during that amazing Unicorns of Love Vs Fnatic game.

LoRdJeSuS69694201 votes

Naut just hooks soraka, walks off of silence, finishes killing. Pretty similar to blitz.

OJ1911 votes

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Pick Soraka. Poke him down, outsustain him, drop the silence on him when he hooks so that he can't finish his combo. I play it a lot and there's realistically no way for a Naut to beat a good Soraka.

Can't he just press R on you then CC chain you to death with a jinx/draven/graves

or he could just ya know, walk off the silence esp since his root is passive.

Thief of Space1 votes

I played some naut support quite a bit in normals last year and all I have to say is: (censored) Nami

WitchQueen Annie1 votes

I was playing Nautilus support long before the LCS started doing it recently.

I'd gladly fight a Soraka. She has absolutely no peel, her damage is almost non-existent, if you hook either her or the ADC, you've got a fight you can win with all the extra damage and lock down Naut brings.

Spacesuit Spiff1 votes

How on earth did you find this thread lmao? One of the comments is talking about mana pots.

Anyway, the thing with the soraka matchup is that while on paper you have the tools to win, you dont have enough of any particular one of them. During laning phase you don't have the damage to actually kill her in one trade, and the longer a trade goes the worse it gets for naut because his W and Q are on such a high cd. So you trade with a soraka, and she just walks away and heals up, so that a minute later enemy botlane is full hp and yours isn't because you were trading. To get through that, you basically need to get a good trade off, wait for cooldowns without raka landing a Q, and then get another nice engage and finish a kill. Otherwise you just slowly lose.

Also, her E can deny your trading if used correctly (rare that I see this done but still). And in some matchups she can just sit back and spam heals as her adc kills yours, since if it's something like Ezreal, Naut doesn't actually have much of a deterrent to him just blinking in and 1v2ing (slows do nothing if he's already in range, all you have is Q and Exhaust for cc).

Ignite is a thing, but it's not a sure victory and giving up exhaust hurts.

All that said, this matchup also depends on the patch. The OP was back when her Q and W heals were instant. If Raka is weak numerically, you can faceroll her.

WitchQueen Annie1 votes

no idea how i found the thread...

I dunno, just from experience I feel that once you land a hook you can brute force this match up if your focus is right. Naut's autos really hurt.

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