Healer supports going AP: Ap runes better than Magic pen/ Hybrid?

Boxleitner·Nov 26, 2016·1 votes·1,478 views

I'm a player that likes building AP on support healers.

I'm asking that you listen to me, and not criticize this for a second so i can understand something:

If heals and shields from supports are dependent on AP, then is it still more efficient to go Magic penetration or hybrid penetration marks on champs like Sona/Nami/Karma over plain AP marks?

Wouldn't getting plain AP marks and seals be better? especially if i take very little damage and can sit back and heal/shield my teammate? (The idea is that the extra AP will make the heals bigger and the damage to enemies bigger as well.)

Your insight is appreciated.

-B.

6 Comments

Mysticman89Nov 26, 20162 votes

If you're focused on healing rather than poking, then yes AP is more useful. Things like raka and janna might want to go that route.

I consider sona and karma to be poke focused examples though, and in those cases you're going to be trading a fair bit and raw AP might set you back somewhat.

edit: The extra AP is probably not going mean bigger damage compared to penetration runes however, otherwise AP runes would be strictly better.

FlahertyNov 26, 20162 votes

AP marks and seals would give a total of 10.6 additional AP. Of those champions the highest AP scaling any of their abilities has is 60% AP, a lot of their abilities have lower scalings. So at most you would be getting 6 extra damage or healing or shields. Is a maximum of 6 extra damage or healing really worth more than 9 armor and 8 magic penetration, which provides a much higher percentage of damage and damage reduction?

oSEXYPLATYPUSoNov 26, 20162 votes

the way i play raka is flat armor reds, hp yellows, 1 flat armor quint, 2 gold per 10 quints and flat cdr blues

for 12 armor, 78 hp , 7.5% cdr and +2 gold per 10

and i go 0-18-12 taking intelligence for more cdr and windspeaker blessings for more power in heals.

as a champ like sona,

i play her with magic pen reds, mixutre of flat armor and scaling armor yellows, 3 gold per ten quints and a mixture of mana regen blues and flat mr and scaling mr blues

for a total of +8 magic pen, +5 flat armor +12 armor lvl 18 , +3 gold per 10 , +1.0 mana regen, +4 mr and +9 mr at lvl 18 0-18-12 set up as well

if i feel i can get away taking more ap i just run a flat ap mage page

+8 magic pen , +9 armor + 15ap , +12mr but ill usually go 12-18-0 masteries with it more damage/poke

OglafNov 26, 20162 votes

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the way i play raka is flat armor reds, hp yellows, 1 flat armor quint, 2 gold per 10 quints and flat cdr blues

^This.

I run something similar, but with Health Regen/5 Quints for Soraka in particular.