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Report Riot for: Autofilling during Promo matches! This has to stop.

Boxleitner·10/13/2018, 5:53:29 PM·46 votes·16,369 views

Dear Riot employee,

I'm asking that you let a technician or game developer know about this, please.

Time and again your company auto fills players during Promo matches. This cannot continue. It's unfair to the team with the auto filled player, and causes easy loses, griefing and harassment.

When a player enters a promo match, all ten players should be allowed to play their respective 1st choice roles. Otherwise you can't honestly say this is a fair ranked promotional. By auto filling people into a promos match, you are causing a lopsided game in which one team definitely has an advantage. Even if both teams were to have auto fills, you are not giving the players in question the opportunity to play at their best. It doesn't matter if the lack of auto fill costs us a few more seconds or even minutes in the queue, this is an instance when more respect must be given to player abilities.

Below I am posting a replay of player "-deleted for privacy-" (I opened a ticket) who immediately asked for a replacement jungler in champ select, and when he was denied this, picked Gragas with a mastery level of 6. Even then he died to an immediate jungle invade, cursed us and the game, and proceeded to afk for the rest of the match. Needless to say this cost us the match. This is NOT the first time an auto fill has cost me or a friend a promotional match within the last two weeks. This happens quite, quite often.

Riot, how can you claim that these matches are ranked play in which you can rate my performance, when you don't make the odds fair and controlled? When you handicap a player from champ select, your system is no longer a correct indication of player abilities. I have always felt like you do not listen to my posts, because I rarely see replies from your employees; I'm asking you now to consider what I'm saying and am also requesting the community to follow up with their feelings on this post I am making.

IMPORTANT: I'm also asking that YOU, as an employee, take a proactive measure on behalf of us, and speak directly to your company about this issue. I have the DISTINCT feeling that my forum posts go unnoticed. I am making a marked effort to help your company and the players who play the game to feel better and enjoy their matches. Please, reach out to the proper department and let them know about this.

Sincerely,

Boxleitner

35 Comments

AJStarhiker10/13/2018, 6:32:03 PM7 votes

Riot Riot aaid they're planning on position-based rankings that should help mitigated autofill problems.

That said, however, I do agree that having autofills during promotionals can be problematic for whoever is trying to promote.

Personally, I would like to see a slide option to indicate roughly how long a player is willing to wait before autofill kicks in.

swindsurfer10/13/2018, 10:10:25 PM6 votes

Or you morons can stop only playing 1-2 roles and a total of 2-3 champions and become more diverse? You're only as good as your weakest role. Just because you can 1 trick your way to Gold 5 but are bronze 5 at every other role and champ in the game, doesn't mean you're actually deserving of gold 5.

R107 Games10/13/2018, 6:40:07 PM5 votes

They should've created 2 separate ques imo.

Autofill que: you que up, theirs a chance you will be autofilled,but lower wait time.

Normal que: you que up,and you can't get autofilled,but higher wait time.

See,a que for players that don't mind wait time to get their roles.and another que for players that want lower que wait times.

Kei14310/13/2018, 6:50:57 PM3 votes

S9 position match making would take care of that. Even if they are autofilled, they'll be at that position's MMR instead of the current system, which takes your best position's MMR when autofilled.

BeatleZzz10/13/2018, 6:48:04 PM3 votes

Did you file a support ticket?

xMFGODx10/14/2018, 2:26:46 AM3 votes

Notice how there aren't ANY riot responses? They don't care about the player experience nearly as much as they claim. Broken ranked system for how many years now? Mmr that is a complete joke. Making you lose more games by auto filling you makes you play more games. Playing more games and spending more time on the rift will have you spending more money in turn being more profitable then if you were to reach your ranked goal quicker and stop trying to climb or grind as many hours. As long as they get your money they don't care. I believe this is also why they ban accounts with no option to recover skins. Because they know you're going to get more skins for a new account in turn padding the pockets once again. Yet if you're a Pro player your bans are only temporary. Us common folk don't have opinions that matter enough.

Mayonnesa10/14/2018, 2:47:44 AM3 votes

Here's a suggestion, maybe fix supports and Make them more fun so people play them more rather than forcing people to fucking play a filled role!

SanKakU10/15/2018, 1:15:52 AM2 votes

Maybe he got that mastery six playing ARAM full AP.

sky blower10/14/2018, 2:27:17 AM2 votes

Riot is making lane based ranking next season so i guess it will be addressed soon.

thepiccoyoshi10/14/2018, 2:28:17 AM2 votes

FFS. I understand the frustration, but sometimes it seems like there's nothing Riot can do to satisfy people. It was only a few years ago that we didn't get to pick our positions at all. You just had to spam "mid" and then deal with the inevitable flame war when two players both insisted they said it first. Riot listened and responded to that and created a system where a large majority of the time you get a role you want and to keep the queue times from being ridiculous every once in a while you have to chip in and take one for the team. Which brings me to the second point. Having some background in computer science what is being proposed, while ideal, is likely wholely unrealistic. It is likely that a majority of matches at least have one person in a promotion so the entire system, every match would be affected. You say you're fine with queue times being a few seconds or minutes longer, but what about 20-30 minutes longer... Every time, promotion or not? Idk what the math would actually come out to but I predict that is roughly what it would take to get all 10 players their perfect role every time. The little bit of flexibility from autofill saves the match making algorithm a massive amount of time. I think Riot really tries to listen to it's users and does a pretty damn good job of responding, but some of the stuff people ask for are often without them realizing it just completely impractical if not truly impossible.

crispy6610/14/2018, 7:42:18 AM2 votes

Hopefully next season match making changes will solve this issue

Pro01510/14/2018, 8:37:43 AM2 votes

Strongly agree to this autofill problem And also there are trolls more and more, like when we tell our botlane play more safe plz (they are like 0/3) they start trolling and int feed more. If its possible is that we win LP on our match details and not on (wining/losing) game. Looking on cs and vision score, cc, wards placed, KDA, dmg dealt.... Etc

QWEENB10/14/2018, 12:02:30 PM2 votes

PREAAAAACCCH

Sugarlicious10/14/2018, 6:55:59 PM2 votes

Imagine this scenario though. A guy wants to play Teemo. Teemo gets banned. He autolocks Soraka and says he's playing support. The actual support ofc had to go top and fed pretty badly, to no fault of his own, he was simply outskilled - he got killed under turret at lvl 4. In my opinion, that should be instant ban for the asshole player, but Riot won't do anything of course.