Even the LCS Casters are visibly disgusted with Ryze

ChoGathsSon··4 votes·815 views

And their job isn't to bring up balance or talk about it. In fact, I'd go as far as saying they're supposed to remain neutral when it comes to expressing any sort of suggestion that a champion is way too strong. Even the analyst desk after Gravity vs Liquid basically said "they can't imagine him not being nerfed next patch despite nothing currently on PBE for him." But there's just nothing they can say but this: he's literally that broken atm

Let me tell you something: this is the most broken thing I've seen since release Zyra. She was hotfixed. He's just AS BAD. You don't wait until the next patch to change something like this, even if it's just a few days away. The fact that something like this can exist in a normal SR game, it ruins peoples playing experience. It ruins the game for the person who has to lane vs him as well as the enemy team of him. And don't say "just ban him hurrrr" because not everyone plays ranked or draft, many people play team builder, blind and even ARAM. And there are still people in ranked who aren't informed as most and let him go, making your ranked game feel miserable because Ryze somehow got through.

This NEEDS TO BE HOTFIXED. How it's avoided that so far is beyond me. Even your casters, the people who are supposed to be the least bias, can't stomach this and visibly show their disgust for this.

12 Comments

Deep Terror Nami4 votes

Why do you people keep beating this horse? It's dead. Riot knows it's a problem and nerfs/changes are already lined up for him.

Bijorn2 votes

As well as people should know that he needs to be permabanned for now. Agreed it is hotfix worthy but damn, the amount of qq threads is ridiculous.

ChoGathsSon2 votes

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As well as people should know that he needs to be permabanned for now. Agreed it is hotfix worthy but damn, the amount of qq threads is ridiculous.

Yes, I should just ban him in blind normals and team builders. Did you even read?

And hey, this is the same boards that were flooded with "omg Ryze trash Pls buff" threads galore a few weeks ago so if you're allowed to spam those, I'm going to spam this. By the way, I fucking told people that he's fine and didn't need buffs. But nope, people don't listen. This is the same board that thinks Sona sucks, lux needs buff, Cass prior to this patch was weak early, Bard would always be useless, etc. Why am I not surprised?

Bijorn1 votes

I did read. I rarely play ranked anyway so I am on the same understanding as you. Ranked isn't very fun solo IMHO. But. how many times do you see Ryze in ARAM? Not much. Teambuilder yes I see him a lot agreed.

I never said that it was "ok" for people to spam other threads so not sure what your point is.

Again, Riot has CLEARLY mentioned they are aware of this and will be fixing him. I had CLEARLY stated that I agree with you that he should be hotfixed. If that did not get you to understand that I agree with you...well,

I agree with you.

Does that make you feel better?

ChoGathsSon1 votes

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I did read. I rarely play ranked anyway so I am on the same understanding as you. Ranked isn't very fun solo IMHO. But. how many times do you see Ryze in ARAM? Not much. Teambuilder yes I see him a lot agreed.

I never said that it was "ok" for people to spam other threads so not sure what your point is.

Again, Riot has CLEARLY mentioned they are aware of this and will be fixing him. I had CLEARLY stated that I agree with you that he should be hotfixed. If that did not get you to understand that I agree with you...well,

I agree with you.

Does that make you feel better?

Yes it does, thank you. Now we are friends and can go to Wendy's and buy a frosty and share a spoon and eat it together.

atomicwit1 votes

He WAS trash and had the lowest winrate in the game. That's why they buffed him. Even now, although his gameplay is toxic, his winrate remains unimpressive.

ChoGathsSon1 votes

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He WAS trash and had the lowest winrate in the game. That's why they buffed him. Even now, although his gameplay is toxic, his winrate remains unimpressive.

Are you seriously going to pretend he's balanced atm because of winrate? If not, I'm not sure what you're trying to imply

atomicwit1 votes

Yeah, I'm not pretending. Go look-up even Diamond ELO+ Ryze stats. You'll still find Ashe and a dozen other champions are still a lot higher. These are guys that could be LCS quality. He isn't that hard to figure out so it's not like he has an Azir level skill-cap etc. The fact is that he has drawbacks you don't notice and those drag him down even if he has certain abusive patterns. That doesn't mean he's actually OP overall though. Poppy can be pretty toxic too and she's not OP.

MrBuffington1 votes

People here beat the ground the dead horse was on long after the dead horse decayed and disappeared. Then other people look at them funny and they awkwardly walk away and find another dead horse to beat. #boardsbalanceteam

Pisdov2 votes

ive seen the videos clips of him destroying people, but every Ryze I've had in my games has been a nonfactor. (like 2/8 KDA) I guess some people can't even press buttons in the correct order.

OxBaker1 votes

He's at a 46% winrate and is only banned in 16% of games. I really doubt RIOT is going to bother hotfixing a case like this. Doubt he'll even receive more than a tweak to his snare duration when they do nerf him.

Edit: In fact, I see maintenance for 5.11 has just been announced and they didn't even bother including any Ryze nerfs so obviously not as big an issue as a few exaggerated videos make it appear.

manbearswine1 votes

"most broken thing since release zyra"? I'm sorry,did you miss bugfixed rengar? That thing was way more broken than release zyra.

release zyra lasted 3 weeks,bugfixed rengar lasted 3 days.

Well,this comment was pointless,but still GOD DAMN YOU RENGAR

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