Viktor Nerfs Prove Riot Doesn't Know Why Viktor Is Overpowered Toplane.

emarythomp2·11/2/2018, 3:48:09 AM·4 votes·4,162 views

So let's look at these outstanding nerfs that will balance viktor in toplane and maybe even help his midlane!

Let's see:

Siphon Power (Q):

Discharge Damage decreased to 20/45/70/95/120 from 20/50/80/110/140

Discharge AP ratio increased to 55% from 50%.

...... Hmmmm so he gets 5/10/15/20 less damage on his q empowered auto attack.... Oh but the ap ratio went dowmn by 5%!......

So They kept it's rank 1 damage, took away 5 damage rank 2, and buffed his ap ratio.... Alright well what about his main q? The one that's spammable? The one that gives him a shield? The one that does 60 damage rank 1? The one that is one of the reasons viktor is top tier?

Oh, it's unchanged..... Okay so he can still spam his q, take no damage from minions because of his shield, and his empowered auto attack still does damage to me at basically the same rate probably even more rank 1 since his ap ratio on discharge was increased.

Okay what about the other nerfs to viktor let's see:

Chaos Storm (R):

Discharge damage decreased to 130/210/290 from 150/250/350.

Discharge AP ratio increased to 85% from 70%.

Oh. a whole, 20/40/60 damage on the discharge.... Meaning the initial damage when it's casted stays the same, he loses 20 damage BUT then gets a 15% increased ap ratio....

Are you serious with this? Is this a joke?

Okay let's talk about what makes viktor overpowered toplane and why these nerfs are complete shit and useless:

  • He gets ranged targeted poke that gives him a shield which ignores minion damage and gives him an empowered auto attack that can be activated as soon as shield comes out meaning he can spam you level 1 with 60+20(55% ap ratio)+The ap you get for going Inspiration+Sorcery(20 ap by the way), which are the runes toplane viktor gets everytime+item 3200 Which gives ability power per level (1 ap lvl 1). All that is hitting you at level fucking 1 and they're nerfing 5 damage rank 2???????? Let's not forget that later levels (lvl 4-6) He can harrass you with his Q+discharge WITHOUT TAKING TOWER DAMAGE BECAUSE HIS SHIELD BLOCKS THE TOWER SHOT??? Or how about the fact that He has a short enough cooldown on it with short enough mana to basically spam it.

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  • He builds cdr items. He goes for ice born gauntlet first item. Meaning he gets cdr on his q which means more shields but there's more! Now His empowered auto does even more damage and slows with ice born! And the damage is AD! Wow! So now not only am I taking constant poke from q, but it's on a much shorter cooldown, does magic damage, gives him a shield to block damage, But also does attack damage and slows me too! This isn't stupid at all! Let's not forget the movement speed he might have at this time too so his kiting potential is maximized!. Also let's not forget he goes Transcendence for 10% cdr level 10 making it a total 30% cdr on his q WHICH HAS A 4 SECOND COOLDOWN MAX RANK WITHOUT ANY CDR.

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  • You know those ap ratio buffs would of made sense because it would encourage tank toplane viktor to put some ap in his kit... EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT HE BUILDS AP AS TANK VIKTOR ANY WAY:

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So basically He loses what? 20 damage max rank on discharge but now has 55% ap ratio????????? So His damage is even higher later on even though he built into tank????????? Oh but this is nerfing toplane viktor right? Riot knows what they're doing right?

So in conclusion, Viktor is the exact same and won't even move from his toplane top tier position, but he kills you just a tiny bit slower than he would........

What a joke lmao. This company either wants viktor to stay top and be another toxic champion toplaners have to suffer through, they have favortism for viktor over the entire toplane community, or they just don't care about people going toplane and will let anything stay as long as it works

(Another example of this is when they didn't include quinn in those massive adc nerfs because she was a toplaner since they failed at designing her as an adc so they decided not to hit her even though she is technically suppose to be an adc as well)

Nerf Suggestions:

  • Increase mana cost on q

  • nerf shield on q

  • increase cd on q

  • nerf discharge damage rank 1 by 10 on q

  • nerf movement speed on q

  • nerf Base ad growth

  • nerf initial Chaos Storm damage by 20/30/40

  • Increase ap ratios

  • nerf damage on ice born for ranged champions

  • nerf e damage by a small amount or increase the cd on e

These nerfs I Garentee will make toplane viktor can't just press 1 button and poke you out of lane and make him BALANCED for toplane and maybe improve his midlane from the ap ratios.

Oh maybe you can just give him -5 damage and not bother to fix him at all because you don't understand your own game.

19 Comments

Stigran11/2/2018, 9:32:40 AM4 votes

From the people that fix irelia by nerfing her MS what did you expect? Lol. These are actually buffs for midlane vik and don't really hurt top vik

RAT IN GAME UwU 11/2/2018, 4:04:23 AM3 votes

they need to nerf shields on everything it's been the most anti fun bullshit since inception

especially shields that make no sense, even from a lore standpoint

I dashed, lets get a shield

...okay Kaisa Riven

Salron11/2/2018, 5:29:02 AM2 votes

-20 damage hurts on a spell that is being constantly spammed on a low CD One of the issues with Viktor top is that he does too much damage for how tanky he is so these nerfs are in the right direction

But unless Riot straight up guts Viktor or makes IBG melee only I don't see him going away any time soon

ShadWooo11/2/2018, 5:16:08 AM1 votes

Be glad he got nerfed at all. You say he is spamming Q. Well if he is spamming Q then he is spamming empowered autoattack after. So this will affect him quite a lot.

Jarring11/2/2018, 5:51:31 AM1 votes

feels like top main rage. yeah his kit is good, but nerfing the base dmg and increasing the AP ratios is the best thing to keep his viability at mid untouched.

nerfing how anything on his kit actually works will only hurt his mid lane presence.

and LMAO @ all the nerfs you're suggesting. Jesus Christ are you Hashinshin? what a fucking joke.

the biggest nerf they gave to ekko wasn't even a ratio. They just completely removed the slow on his passive and it destroyed his presence in both top and mid lane. Viktor is not even a problem in comparison to what ekko was, and imho, he TOO only needed changes to ratios. I honestly don't think the way his passive worked needed to be changed. Yeah, he was still viable in top before that final nail in the coffin, but he wasn't getting pentas every damned day either.