Riot and Spell Vamp (Patch 6.9)

Rivini·5/4/2016, 7:52:12 AM·7 votes·8,220 views

From patch notes:

why is all the spell vamp gone?

Let’s start by comparing it to lifesteal. Thematically, lifesteal gives the feeling that you’re fighting back against death, creating tense 1 on 1 duels with uncertain outcomes. Mechanically, lifesteal says ‘I may have a small health bar but you’ve got to focus me down or I’ll regenerate to full.’ Spell vamp, while sounding similar, doesn’t quite hit the same bar. Unlike basic attacks, no two abilities are the same, which makes the stat wildly variable in value.

First, how is "fighting back against death" not applicable for mages? I mean, what?

Second, you're using "no two abilities are the same" as an argumentative point? Um, RNG critical strikes are still in the game, right? Draven's Q? Caitlyn's passive? Jinx's Q? Vayne's Q? Jhin's passive? Any AD champion who gets a Sheen item? These are some of the examples that show how the same champion can have varying basic attacks, more so unpredictable than abilities from mages might I add, so why is the issue with spell vamp treated so differently for mages, again?

Third, why is this in the game if spell vamp is so "unhealthy"? item 3812 With this item, you're saying it's perfectly okay for AD champions to heal from their (physical damage) abilities and basic attacks; the very thing you hate AP champions having. All kinds of confusion to be had. Not many AP champions get item 3146 because they often don't want or need the AD, so again it's mainly left for certain AD champions and Akali to pick up. This means AD champions get not one but two viable spell vamp items, not to mention the many other powerful right-click sustain items, while the majority of AP champions get nothing but a skimpy biscuit heal with item 3010 if they have the mana to spend. I don't know if I'm the only one who saw this irony, but Riot wants item 3010, item 3027 and Hextech GLP-800 to make mages want to get close enough to enemies to be attacked, except without having the suitable sustain to make getting the mana from the exchange worthwhile.

The main issue I have isn't that spell vamp is being taken away from mages. Don't get me wrong, spell vamp can indeed work for mages just fine and I'd very much enjoy having it as a viable option when I'd want it. I'm sad to see it going away. However, the hypocrisy of AD champions being permitted to have a superior version of WotA, on top of having all their right-click sustain toys, irks me so freaking much. The AD favoritism is strong and blatant.

This is the typical mage experience, updated for the upcoming changes:

Brand Hey, check this out... Caitlyn What? Brand {throws Q at minion} Brand +15 health Brand Impressive, isn't it? Caitlyn Hmm... Caitlyn {basic attacks minion} Caitlyn +127 health Caitlyn Quite. Caitlyn {shoots Q through minion wave} Caitlyn +83 health (total) Caitlyn item 3812 I must say, this certainly is keeping me on the field to fight more and have an enjoyable experience. Brand ...

item 3070 Brand item 3070 {recalling}

Caitlyn Where are you going?

item 3070 Brand item 3070 {mumbling} Stupid burst healing... barely using any mana while I'm already running dry...

Caitlyn Beg your pardon?

item 3070 Brand item 3070 S-SHUT UP!

Caitlyn Oh well, I'll just keep farming while he's away... Caitlyn {levels up}

item 3070 Brand item 3070 {at base}

item 3070 Brand item 3070 If only I didn't need to go back to base so much...

item 3070 Brand item 3070 Getting behind in gold and levels...

item 3070 Brand item 3070 Fun game!

item 3070 Brand item 3070 And... why is Caitlyn mid, anyway?

Brand {heads back to lane after healing up} Brand Be strong, Brand. Be strong...

Caitlyn Welcome back! Brand TAKE THIS! Brand {unleashes full combo}

Brand What?! Barely half your health is gone! Caitlyn {casually right-clicking minions} Brand And you're healing all the damage back in seconds! Caitlyn {humming} Brand STOP DOING THAT! Brand Tell me how you lived! Caitlyn Hm? Oh, could it be this? Caitlyn item 3155 Caitlyn Nifty little item, isn't it? :D Caitlyn And your damage was reduced further by item 3812, which I was able to quickly heal against the bleed damage. Brand ... Brand I hate my life so much right now. Caitlyn I must ask, what purpose do you mages even have in this game anymore? Brand I... I don't know... Caitlyn Well, you can always go to bot lane and- Brand DON'T YOU DARE SAY IT! Brand I'VE HAD IT WITH BEING SUPPORT! Brand MAGES WERE SUPPOSED TO RETURN TO MID LANE! Brand WE SHOULD BE GOOD NOW! Brand But youuu... you and your physical damage buddies... Brand You've ruined EVERYTHING! Brand I... I...

item 3070 Brand item 3070

Caitlyn Hey... don't be so down. Caitlyn Riot may like my ability to deal rapid burst damage at long range without expending mana... Caitlyn ...and extremely high burst damage from long-range spells with my incredible amount of safety, both innately and with items... Caitlyn (Wait, high damage spells... does that make me a mage? I'll have to think about that later...) Caitlyn But surely you still have a place in this game, Brand. Caitlyn Chin up!

item 3070 Brand item 3070 You... you really think so?

Caitlyn Of course! Caitlyn You should really get that one item though to help you out. Brand ...What item?

Caitlyn item 3303

item 3070 Brand item 3070 AAAHHHHH!

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4 Comments

Photos of Ghosts5/4/2016, 7:57:49 AM1 votes

can't lifesteal sheen afaik

Are5/5/2016, 2:12:20 AM1 votes

It's been a long time. I think the reason was something about how mages being able to SV off of their burst in 2 seconds would be OP, but I mean, ADC's can crit for just as much damage, SINGLE TARGET, so yeah