Spell Vamp runes still are around, however Armor Pen runes are being removed.

Weathered·Oct 19, 2016·1 votes·400 views

Not angry, just needed some reasoning @Meddler on deciding to do it differently than before.

8 Comments

Urf Mode Is LifeOct 19, 20162 votes

because theres too much armor pen in items currently. you dont need meddler to know this

WeatheredOct 19, 20162 votes

Armor Pen doesn't exist now.

Urf Mode Is LifeOct 20, 20161 votes

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Armor Pen doesn't exist now.

item 3035 item 3134 im just putting these here because they are used to build up other items

item 3147 item 3036 item 3156 item 3033 item 3071 item 3142 Currently these items find atleast 2 slots in the majority of almost all ADC builds... the issue that this presents is that the armor pen is enough to deal close to true damage to anyone not building armor aka other carries... with the armor pen runes, you could effectively deal true damage + a little over true damage ( aka amped damaged by reducing enemy armor sub zero )

While you may think this is ok, its simply not because some of these items also find their way into bruiser builds like darius, renekton, riven, etc just as a few examples while leads to again, the whole 1 shot scenario.

Armor already is super weak, tans have been getting crushed by carries able to just blow them up. Without damaging what items bring to the table, removing armor pen runes allows a few things

a: more versatility in rune selection b: itll help make armor a valuable stat again and help bring ADCs dps output a little more on par.

There is no need for this much armor pen to exist... when BC + LW are put with 1-2 other armor pen items, tanks are facing a base of 50% armor reduction ( multiplicatively its actually more like a 40% reduction ), then a flat reduction ontop of that effectively cutting their armor more or less in half which is a big reason tanks have been getting dusted so easily

400 armor reduced to 200 might make you say... well 200 is still alot... well my friend for a tank its not nearly enough to cope with the DPS output currently in the game. Tanks getting hit for 800 damage literally 1.5-2 times a second from just 1 source of damage more or less gives them a 3-5 second window before they die... tanks need to last slightly longer than that.

my 2 cents

WeatheredOct 20, 20161 votes

Reread my post. They have removed Armor Penetration as a stat, it does not exist on the PBE. Lethality is now a new stat, and has a different formula for damage.

LitAFOct 19, 20161 votes

So are we getting IP back for the runes or what?

GrimspeakeOct 19, 20161 votes

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So are we getting IP back for the runes or what?

^^ this, runes are a bitch to buy and i dont want my hard earned ip completely wasted

WeatheredOct 20, 20161 votes

I assume that you will just be given "Lethality" runes, if those are a thing.

AstôlfoOct 19, 20161 votes

If I remember correctly, SV are only on Quints and are uncommon anyways. Almost any AD can abuse flat armorpen, and armorpen is on at least Marks and Quints both, both of which are common armorpen slots.