@Riotmedler Lucian 44%Wr Lower than all but Kalista. Still think he doesn't need a buff?

Violent Hunter··2 votes·1,019 views

I've posted about several times. And what I've said is happening. Armor pen build is not good anymore for him. The nerfs recieved from that are now making Crit build not even viable on him and its showing. Is he gonna get anything this coming patch or the next one?

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Flaherty3 votes

Kalista's winrate is 43.5% and Lucians is 47. 3%

Violent Hunter1 votes

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Kalista's winrate is 43.5% and Lucians is 47. 3%

I eddited title still its 44% go check na.gg

Flaherty1 votes

The stats I gave are from all regions and leagues, and I'm looking at the stats for just NA from that site and it says Kalista is 41.8% and Lucian is 46.1%.

Violent Hunter1 votes

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The stats I gave are from all regions and leagues, and I'm looking at the stats for just NA from that site and it says Kalista is 41.8% and Lucian is 46.1%.

Still 46 is weak its still only second to kalista.

Flaherty1 votes

I don't know if you're just not bothering to check or you're just flat out lying but you're wrong. There are 12 other champions in between Lucian and Kalista if you order them by win percentage, it doesn't matter if it's just NA or all regions. I'm not saying Lucian does or doesn't need buffs, but your argument is wrong.

Violent Hunter1 votes

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I don't know if you're just not bothering to check or you're just flat out lying but you're wrong. There are 12 other champions in between Lucian and Kalista if you order them by win percentage, it doesn't matter if it's just NA or all regions. I'm not saying Lucian does or doesn't need buffs, but your argument is wrong.

We are talking about adc. not the entire champion pool. is is 15th out of the 16 bot lane adcs. with a 44% win rate on NA on na.op.gg go check for yourself. i am not wrong check it for yourself.

Flaherty1 votes

Okay when we're talking about just adcs then yes he is 2nd to last, but you never mentioned you were just talking about the adcs, how am I supposed to know that? And I literally just checked and it's not 44%, I don't know what statistics you're looking at but it's not 44% from anything I'm seeing right now.

Flaherty1 votes

Okay looking again now I see that it's that low for all the games that have been played since the 10th, so less than 4 days. 4 days is not enough time for people to figure out more efficient ways of playing a champion, yes armor pen has been nerfed for him but that doesn't mean he needs to be changed just yet. There are several other champions, some of those are adcs, that need work before he does in my opinion.

Lord Desert1 votes

where did you get those numbers?

Violent Hunter1 votes

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where did you get those numbers?

na.gg

Lord Desert1 votes

its 48% at korea and 46 for euw, but to be fair most adcs lost about a bit of winrate in 6.22 so when the assasins and the items are balanced a bit better, those numbers will settle themselfs no ned to worry for now.

With the exeption of vayne and twich who use the assasin itmes

SwordOfWar1 votes

I like crit Lucian. Your mid game is definitely weaker than the old armor pen build but if any non tank dares to challenge you they'll eat like 2 shots and explode.

Violent Hunter2 votes

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I like crit Lucian. Your mid game is definitely weaker than the old armor pen build but if any non tank dares to challenge you they'll eat like 2 shots and explode.

I like crit lucian too but it still really weak right now. The nerfs from trying to limit the armor pen build are screwing over the crit build while other adc's have either gotten buffs or were already strong

SwordOfWar1 votes

I havnt whipped out Lucian yet for this pre season but with the addition of Knights Vow i feel like Braum Lucian will be even stronger. So there's an indirect buff? Idk lol. I believe in Lucian ;D

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