Why do people think camille is OP

l MrD l·1/1/2017, 2:55:26 PM·2 votes·8,323 views

everytime i play against or as camille i either beat her or i get beaten lol.........

i found that whenever tanks are played against her like mao or naut with coc they can easily trade with her as they can easily adsborb her damage. Or any tank in general lol like sion and poppy

i found playing against squishier targets camille has it slightly easier. Against a fiora though shes easily beaten riposte stops her whole engage rendering her useless. IF camille tries to ult fiora can ult. Against a riven the early levels against her are easy since she lacks the CDR and skills. you could engage her at level 2 by having Q and E. But more in the mid game i found camille really struggles against her. Camilles E can be countered hard by rivens W and E. Riven can simply E to dodge whilst gaining a shield to Q back in or she can W it before she hits you. but also even if camilly hits the E i found riven hurts way past her camjille shield and the 2 hard CCs reducing the AS buff duration that she camille gets since shes locked in CC.

As for her skills looking at the passive yes its good but i found it mainly useful in laning. Even when 1 v 1ing it sometimes doesnt seem noticable but this could be that the shield type varies. its also requires you to auto which can be hard for camille to even get in range without using E as R is also a really short range.

Q is really good i found and hurts along with the double AA reset. but i found that when people say this is what makes her OP she first has to Q to have to 1.5 seconds to Q for the true damage which has a very short window for you to use but simple disengaging after the 1st Q should be simple? unless cmaille uses her E but this could be dodged O_o

W i found hard to use in duels. Really good for trades but nothing else to me. against enemy who is smart and this is what i found all the type against Mao riven naut etc they keep close so you cant hit the outer W for the extra damage and heal its not really good as a gap closer either sicne the short range but then she has her E and im assuming the way it works is to keep her to her targets. E to engage Q get the speed boost W if needed to close the gap for the true damage Q.

E i found to be really really good and if this is what people find OP about camille then maybne id understand. Good engage which can hit multiple enemies which provides a stun and AS buff. But then camille relies heavily on this skill to even land a Q W R and even autoes. Perhaps maybe camilles E just needs to be narrowed to be harder to hit if that good.

R i dont think is even good it doesnt feel like a power spike to me. I like how its very good at stopping mobile champs like lee sin ahri and LB but it feels like when i ult im not getting a strong feeling i just feel like its a reliable dodging tool and to stop mobile champs rather than to kill them. even though it can be used but i found majority of the time thats what its used for.

I have also found whenever her skills her on CD shes easily beaten which is why i think at extended fights shes easily beaten. Early game the W and E are long on CD so perhaps treat her like a riven. engage her when E or W is on CD or evn the passive that has about 15 CD too.

Id really like to know where people think shes OP lol if its her reliable engage jarvan does basically the same but not condered OP if its the 1 v 1 id say riven can do the same. if its the sustain trade look at darius or renekton. none of these champs are considered OP but if camille was to be nerfed, where i think only the E width since she realies heavily on it, what stops me from picking riven or fiora for teh 1 v 1s over camille or what stops me picking jarvan for the engage over camille or even the picking renekton over camille for teh trades.

9 Comments

Doseqis1/1/2017, 3:48:51 PM9 votes

Because she clearly is, for a champion to have a 53% winrate on their first patch is almost unheard of, every release starts at around 43% ish and gradually goes up as people learn the champion.

Camille is just so strong that she can compete with the other champions despite being newer. You make a point near the end, i think the main thing is pointed out yourself, she has the engage of jarvan with an ult they CAN'T escape while also having the sustained trading power of a Xin or Darius, she is supposed to be a jack of all trades champion but just like Ahri ends up being just as good if not better at the things other champions who have kits focused on one aspect.

TLDR: Jack of all trades that is overtuned and does just as good at the jobs linear champions do.

Dreadlocks1/1/2017, 4:36:35 PM2 votes

cus she is?

2Charmnot2Charm1/1/2017, 6:36:24 PM2 votes

everytime i play against or as camille i either beat her or i get beaten lol

Yea because clearly you and the other players in your elo can play camille to her full potential /s.

She is not a problem in low elo she is a problem in the higher elos.

Asayake 5150glow1/1/2017, 4:51:52 PM1 votes

E should be less like a Vi Q, makes sense thematically anyway. Should be ground targeted small AoE stun, not a knock up.

Ult is incredibly powerful for snowballing.

Base stats are too high.

That is all.

Astôlfo1/1/2017, 7:00:16 PM1 votes

People whine about every new champion.