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New BE system is stupid!!!

Dakuda330·11/12/2017, 11:10:21 AM·261 votes·21,495 views

I play league a lot like more than your average person okay. i play tons of games each day between 10-20 games a day. i get 1 level per day and every time i level i get this capsule since I don't get ip anymore after every game. so now I'm only getting like 800 BE for like 15 games.

I just opened a capsule and got 3 90 BE champs and 2 270. The other 3 I've opened have only given me 270 BE champs. What is this system? Yesterday i got 3 270 champs and that is all. That is 800 BE after having played 15 games, it is ridiculous. I'd get over 1k before if you include first win of the day and champ costs are the same.

It takes so long to level that people who dont spam games like me are never going to get any champs and then people like me who only need a few 4800 and 6300 champs its going to take me forever because im only getting 600-800 BE after 10+ games. but wait the people who are leveling get them a lot sooner and better rewards than us? Oh thats fantastic ive only been level 30 for the past 6 years i wonder what good that does for me. The only good part of this system is the random champ for 3900 and thats only because every champ I dont own is 4800+.

I think the old system was way better and way easier to deal with. I could get a new champ within 2-3 days and now its going to take me approx 4-5 days and that is with me spamming plenty of games everyday. What happens when I start working again? Do i just never get to have these champs? This system is inefficient for people who have to work or people in college or people in school. It sucks for everyone that isn't leveling up a brand new account. I honestly dont see the purpose in doing this change.

I like the no level cap but its unfortunate we couldn't just have that from the start without any rewards. We didnt get rewards for leveling back in season 2 when i first started playing all we did was unlock new summoner spells. We had to buy our runes and rune pages the old fashioned way and the only thing we bitched about was how a quint cost over 1k ip. Honestly one of the worst changes ive seen in the past 6 years ive been playing

Update: I just played 15 games got to level 35 and opened up my capsule only to get a 640 and 270 champ = to roughly 900 BE. the old system wouldve given me about 1.2k to 1.5k depending on how many of them were wins or losses and how long the game went on. now this is a little closer to what we used to get but its completely rng based. it just means i got lucky today. who is to say tomorrow when i get level 36 that i wont just get 5 90 BE champs.

146 Comments

Raveolution11/12/2017, 12:26:10 PM23 votes

I mean, it's no better for newer players either.. They doubled the experience per level for pre-30, so unless you literally just do the first win bonus and nothing else per day, you're getting fucked over. Around level 20 it takes 2k+ experience per level. Even if you win all your games, the first level of a day would take at least* ~8 games, and ~15+ after that. And that is on an account that isn't even able to do ranked, so the games mean literally nothing and you get nothing for them.

DarkRooster11/12/2017, 2:26:44 PM19 votes

Honestly when we have massive virgin war against Dota 2 players, their argument is that their champions are free, all of them. So i expected that Riot will change it so we can get champions way easier, like half year or year normal playing and you have them all, and they did the opposite. This is really hard point Dota 2 virgins have and somehow Riot doesn't care. You can't make core of the game hardly buyable, make it easy to get and sell cosmetics.

Gone Lethal11/12/2017, 4:36:09 PM18 votes

I have played between 10-16 games per level. Im currently sitting at level 33 and here are the results, 1260 BE , 900 BE and 810 BE for a combine total of 2970 BE. The one thing I want Riot to explain is why is THIS RANDOM REWARDS AND AMOUNT OF BLUE ESSENCE. Listen, they have been turning things we used to have a bit a control (ex:Key Fragment Drops) and now Blue Essence to a RANDOM FREAKING AMOUNT. Why does everyone receive a different amount when WE ALL PLAY THE SAME AMOUNT OF GAMES!. Please return the damn IP/Blue Essence after every game.

Bait for Sale11/12/2017, 6:56:50 PM14 votes

3rd year playing this game, I like the concept of the new blue essence system, but if you don't earn anything after playing a single game it gets old. You lose a lot of potential because now players feel less rewarded for a good game and experience points honestly doesn't make me a better player, yeah its nice that the level cap got taken off so you can see who puts in time and who doesn't, but exp points alone just doesn't cut it. If there were atleast 50 blue essence for playing a game this would add to players being able to play more champions, wanting to play more games, and essentially learning each champion's abilities better to be a better player in the long run. That's what makes a game great is the ability to improve from mistakes, have a challenge and over come it. Another idea would be winning champion capsules off of earning an S-, S, or S+ grade. This would also make champs that are max level valuable as well. This is my first time posting so I hope its helpful. Catch you on the rift!

bàn11/12/2017, 6:21:59 PM13 votes

main purpose is for you to spend real money. its so blatant

YiffMeImAFurry11/13/2017, 1:14:01 AM7 votes

Literally all they had to do was merge BE and IP.

Leave everything else alone. Everyone would've been fucking ecstatic. Wow, no more having to disenchant shards for BE? Hot damn!

No lets throw in an exp system for good measure totally necessary yay...

There's nothing more disappointing right now than leveling up and getting a shitty as champ shard.

Kwattigor11/12/2017, 3:28:02 PM7 votes

the new system is crap redo your math way more then 5 days for champs unless its cheap cheap champ in past 4 days playing 10-15 games a day ive only earny 1600 be so playing almost 9 hours a day i get around 45 be per hour compared to loss b4 change average game 35 min would be 60-65 for a loss 80-90 for a win thats more than double what you make with this new garbage setup riot will lose tons of players from this unless they fix it i have over 8k games played btw

spagnut11/12/2017, 8:05:39 PM7 votes

I have been playing this game since the first season, since ARAM became a thing I have been playing it almost exclusively. People here are saying they are able to play 9 games a day, I am lucky if I find time to play 3 to 5 a week, considering each game takes about a half hour, that's still 6 hours of time a week. This new system gives me very little incentive to play now. I am sitting on what appears to be a massive pile of this BE now and only about 40 champs I don't own, but actually doing the math on what the BE is worth 40k BE doesn't even go very far... Between this and the new rune system which is IMO a mess and has made ARAM significantly less fun, I have very little motivation left to play this game. Which is sad because I have put in so much of my time over the years.

UnoGetGoldELO11/12/2017, 6:40:49 PM6 votes

we all dislike this BE change and its clear as rain that changes for the better are going to come if @Tryndamere plus staff fight Tencents asian thievery back.

edit: otherwise this game is going to drive people away en masse that aren´t 6-7year old accounts that couldn´t care less with their heaving pile of BE to sit on.

Tesla Effect11/12/2017, 7:07:17 PM5 votes

Their statistics are intentionally false to the actual rewards we are getting with the level up system just to quiet up the players. They have already been proven wrong when it comes to game average time rewards of the old system, and now with each users experience with what actual BE shards they have been getting, which is way lower than the lowest said amount, and lower than in the IP system.

Qìyana Reevès11/12/2017, 5:36:26 PM5 votes

They should make it so u get BE after a game and not just xp alone, it takes too long to get champs with the new system

Lajinn511/12/2017, 7:42:17 PM5 votes

They could at least remove 450s from the loot pool. Getting a capsule stuffed with them is essentially a worthless level up, since they gutted disenchant Blue gains.

Oh, and you know, at least give us SOME currency for just playing. Having to rely on random drops to be able to get champions is fucking absurd and stifles the ability to actually get them.

Purrloxx11/13/2017, 12:58:06 AM4 votes

I agree entirely, now i'm not going to go into a bunch of maths but in BOTH champion capsules, I ONLY got duplicate champions that were: Wukong for 800BE, Malphite (I lied I upgraded this to permanent) 400ish BE in the first one, and the second one? OH only 2 Kayle for 90BE so 180 total and Akali for 600BE which they are both dupes...so lets see i earned around 1560BE not counting Malphite cause he was upgraded to perma. THANKS RIOT so now when i went Zoey or Xayah or HECK even Karma now ive still gotta wait till im about level 40 for both cause im not spending money anymore, i spent money in season 7 but season 8 has gone downside, give us IP back or atleast the system it used but for BE you are RUINING this. Whats even worse is when me and my friend are bad at the game and go on a 16 lose streak meaning we got not even ONE LEVEL in 16 games!!! COME ON like what is this! i wont be suprised at this rate if Smite takes over league because Smite gets it shit right hence why i hvave 800 hours playtime and all my money goes into it

FakeGravity11/12/2017, 8:15:20 PM3 votes

what if the amount of BE you get from the capsules was more...symetrical? if the shard you get is low cost you should get either more shards or extra BE, if the champion cost 6300 i be ok but it feels bad to get a single champion most of the time with any BE to even get close to craft it

FullmuteAll play11/13/2017, 2:34:39 AM3 votes

Upvoting this. I am barely earning for new champ who costs 4800. And when I get 90BE for 2 random champs I looted it is freaking ridiculous. And with these 2 rune pages RIOT left us I can barely earn for more rune pages. Basically new runes now are old masteries. I had ALL 20 mastery pages utilized before new season. Now I have only 7 rune pages which I bought on old IP converted into BE without 5 other useless runes RIOT gave us for some reason.

SirCrumbs11/13/2017, 2:39:52 AM3 votes

I really got screwed by the new system. I just hit level 30 before the update and have been playing normals. The issue is that normals is filled with diamond and plat players probably due to the ranked season being over. I want to play ranked to maybe get people more in my skill level but i only have 13 champs and you need 20. I cant earn enough blue essence to buy champs to get to ranked. I cant win games to hopefully earn more xp to level up. I am tired of letting my team down game after game.

Tearin True11/13/2017, 1:03:48 AM1 votes

Honest question...what if lol went with a subscription based model?

You could opt to sign up for a subscription Say a monthly fee of $1 and if you did so you can have the the BEreward per game that is on par with what you use to get with IP.