I am going to school so i can work for Riot.

HandheldBrandon·Mar 10, 2015·5 votes·581 views

Just so i can change all of Zeds coding so everytime Zed presses Q he stabs himself in the brain and dies.

Since Riot doesn't seem to want to do anything about him.

13 Comments

VisigothMar 10, 20151 votes

Nah man they nerfed his attack speed slightly

100% Balanced now :^)

HandheldBrandonMar 10, 20151 votes

I know RiTO its almost as if Zed is unplayable now because of this amazingly unfair nerf kappa.

NahuiMar 10, 20151 votes

The attack speed nerf was significant, and don't expect much more from Riot. They hit him in his splitpush hard, with rushing a bork now only giving you about 1.03 AS instead of the usual 1.23 AS or so.

They won't nerf Zed's damage. He is a healthy assassin with a get in, get out mechanic. It's up to your team to stop the get out mechanic.

HandheldBrandonMar 11, 20151 votes

A healthy assassin with resourceless AOE waveclear an ult that forces any opposing laners to pigeonhole themselves into a specific item as fast as they can or they auto lose lane.

If thats allowed to be okay then i don't see why mages aren't allowed to have old chalice back and get their wave clear back since essentially Zed is that and more.

NahuiMar 11, 20151 votes

Not resource less, energy. Each spell costs roughly 1/4 of his resources and sure it recharges quickly, but it isn't resource less at all.

And you are "forced" to build a staple item in your build no matter What AP you play. Zhonyas is always built, an it gives great stats, all zed is, is an excuse to rush it.

Zed is just a champ that changes the typical AP play style of rushing mana regen so you can spam spells. But once you get the zhonyas, zed really can't kill you unless you make too many mistakes in lane.

So yes, zed does force you to change your play style and that is a reason riot loves him. Tear, morello, and chalice every game is just a boring repition of who can poke the other champ the most until they are ultable.

His damage won't be nerfed. They did that twice already and won't do it again.

HandheldBrandonMar 12, 20151 votes

Wrong on a few accounts here.

I say he's resourceless because managing his resource is not a significant thing he has to do. All he has to do is make sure he doesn't spam 100 percent constantly which even when he doesn't he has some pretty insignificant cooldowns except on shadow. His Q is 6 seconds and his E is 4 seconds and with brutalizer that goes down even further to 5.4 q and 3.4 on E.

Second he not only forces you to diverge from any significant core items on most champions but he actually pigeon holes you into rushing Zhonya's as fast as you possibly can otherwise at level 6 he pretty much auto wins the lane because most mages can't deal with his All in and since he just shoves the wave with his near infinite sustain you are forced to build non mana sustain items to deal with his level 6 which he will get before you ever finish your items.

Not only does he get his level 6 spike before you can finish your item to counter it but at level 6 any smart Zed will immediately press onto his enemy and force them out of lane further pushing them behind him. Also he doesn't force you to change your playstyle he forces you to build against his which is unhealthy gameplay.

Imagine if there was a champion that 95 percent of the time forced you to build an expensive item above all other items and play by their rules no matter what the playstyle of your champion is. That's what Zed does to opposing laners. Forces them to play by his rules because on top of his damage he can dictate when he wants to fight and when he doesn't considering he has 2-4 possible gap closers and one with as far as i can tell one of the longest non global blinks in the game. The whole reason Zed even does well now is because infinite sustain push lanes are gone except Zed is pretty much exactly that. His split pushing while annoying was never ever his big problem IMO it was his ability to dictate how he want's the lane to go and at level 6 completely and utterly remove his opponent from the lane with constant non stop harass and if the enemy decides to even step foot he can all in and do a specific amount of damage and blink back out to safety and his ult does the rest.

I'm sorry but you can't make a poke based Assassin with amazing waveclear and with amazing all in and escapability otherwise you get Leblanc and Nidalee and we all know how much people love them right.

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just a boring repition of who can poke the other champ the most until they are ultable.

This literally describes Zed to a T.

He will literally sit in lane and waveclear and poke until he feels he can kill them outright which at level 6 is guaranteed against all but the tankiest laners.

NahuiMar 13, 20151 votes

Mage spells are much stronger than Zed's so by just building mana regen, it becomes whoever can land a couple spells first to have the edge. Most of Zed's spells require precise comboing, the shadow of which is easy to predict, and his e which is melee range.

Zed has to spam his spells in lane if he wants to wave clear, safely farm from the ranged AP he faces, and to poke the enemy. He has plenty of counterplay in lane with the fact that he has to use his Q to farm. Yes, he has his passive, however any Zed that auto attacks all the farm deserves to farm because he opens himself to such poke. If he farms with Q, you now have a good 6 second window to poke him back or drive him back and wave clear yourself.

Facing Zed is just like playing an equation. You have to watch every spell he uses and play according to how he does it. To be honest, this is any champion. If he tries to shadow q you, you either dodge it or get hit by it but now counter react. If he just q's a minion, the lane is purely yours for 6 seconds. Likewise with e or any failed shadows, shadow being upwards to 15 second cooldown. Just watch what he does and take advantage when certain cooldowns are down.

Yes, he pidgeonholes you into zhonyas. But you also often pidgeonhole him into hexdrinker which hits his burst a lot, and if he does not, then you will do massive damage to his squishy self. The fact that you can't start with mana regen doesn't make him overpowered in any way. League is about counterbuilding, not counterbuilding after a core item. You rush zhonyas/seekers, and suddenly you do much more damage to him than he to you and once you have zhonyas, you are relatively safe from him for the rest of the game in the fact that him ulting you is now a huge risk. You could always build some mana regen after that.

And Zed can't both wave clear and kill. He has to pick one, like LB. W-Q-E and now the lane is yours. Or he can go all in on you, and you stop that with zhonyas.

This is also not even taking into account the natural power many meta APCs have with CC and the fact you can take exhaust. There is so much counterplay to Zed that we won't see any more nerfs.

You can name a lot of different strengths but the fact is that he can't use them all at once. Waveclear diminishes kill potential, energy resource prevents too much spam in a short time period, disengage is often at the cost of the kill in which no one wins or you win since his ult and kill potential is down, or necessary because of zhonyas. Also sometimes used successfully, but what would be the point of a skill if it didn't work favorably?

Also fun fact, his poke in lane is easily readable. His shoulders hunch back indicating a shuriken coming. Just side step. You can also easily bait out shadows which HUGELY reduces his power in lane. He needs it to kill you. I'm being completely friendly in saying that, if you don't already, play a lot of Zed and you'll lose any trouble you've ever had with him. You'll learn his kinks and weaknesses and easily exploit them in lane. They chopped down his DPS and splitpush a lot, making his dueling a bit worse, and with Bork taking a hit way back when, and original Zed losing his ult's huge damage potential, they won't do any more nerfing aimed at damage, and most likely not at wave clear.

HandheldBrandonMar 10, 20151 votes

Anyone know what classes i need to take?

I know i need "Neutering Zed 101" but what are the others?