I'm Tired of People Defending this Nunu Player

Alevity Xiaku··13 votes·1,335 views

I play in low elo. My rank is trash. I see trash all the time and don't think much of my teammates. I'm used to someone dying 5+ times in a lane and accepting the loss. But this player is diamond and he does this intentionally. He knows Nunu counter jungle support is garbage. If jungle Nunu is garbage clearly this strategy is even worse. I cannot fathom that you people are defending someone who forces their adc to 1v2 while he goofs around in the empty enemy jungle to die on collapse 6 times before the adc has even inevitably lost their tower.

The game might as well be a 4v5. He's not getting exp roaming around not helping anyone and walking up to camps that either aren't there or he can't finish before dying again. He might have a 53% winrate but from what I've seen when he loses, he LOSES HARD. And the loss is 100% his own fault. I wouldn't want to play with this guy. And it looks like one in two of his teams don't want to play with him either. It's not about being off meta, it's about the fact that he knows his strategy is toxic and garbage, but does it anyway. And amidst half his teams saying "don't do that" and reporting him, he does it anyway. He deserves to be banned for that.

You all are acting childish. This ban is necessary. Because from how it sounds, all of you are taking this as a liberty to make up garbage strategies to see how much you can lose and not get banned. News flash, that's inting. Because sure you didn't die on purpose, but you chose a strategy where you die a lot on purpose. And you know the strategy isn't good and will tilt your teammates. They don't want this in their game. They don't want it to be acceptable to fuck over your teammates in a competitive game because you think you are entitled.

You can't get away with making all your teammates have bad times without consequence. Especially when I see double digit deaths in a high elo game.

Edit: I know you all are gonna act negatively. But even I go off meta, he wasn't banned simply for going off meta. He was banned for being a terrible teammate.

29 Comments

Big Lincoln5 votes

He knows Nunu counter jungle support is garbage.

then why does he have a 53% winrate with it over hundreds of games

I play in low elo.

nobody needs to read beyond here, by the way

Alevity Xiaku3 votes

Hundreds of games, 53%. That means he also loses hundreds of games. You know how frequent a 50% report ratio is? And given he gets reported when he wins too?

Ahristocats4 votes

you don't know stats, pls stop talking 53% win rate on 300 games is a fucking massive amount of LP gain

Alevity Xiaku1 votes

And 450 is a massive amount of reports.

Ahristocats4 votes

idc about reports, he won and that's all that matters IN FUCKING RANKED GAMES

go home kid, and return to normal games

Alevity Xiaku2 votes

If you don't care about reports then there is nothing to say. Clearly you aren't a team player.

Ahristocats3 votes

I am a team player, and that's why i would let this dude play support nunu with smite counterjungling

because as a team player i don't decide the pick of my allies, and i let them carry me

Escheton1 votes

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I am a team player, and that's why i would let this dude play support nunu with smite counterjungling

because as a team player i don't decide the pick of my allies, and i let them carry me

Honestly, this. And I will take those 3 drags, Baron and Cucked Jungler over a Zyra or Malz who gets 20 kills but loses us the game late because of a cocky misplay and 40+ seconds respawn timers.

Big Lincoln6 votes

considering most people average out to 50% when they play HUNDREDS OF GAMES, 53% one-tricking an off-meta playstyle at high elo is pretty damn good

can i report all these mage supports for frustrating me since i don't like them?

Ahristocats3 votes

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. He knows Nunu counter jungle support is garbage.

insert meme about low elo backtalking challenger nunu that has 53% win rate over 300 games on support nunu

Alevity Xiaku3 votes

insert screenshot of *diamond nunu having 16 deaths in a ranked game.

Ahristocats2 votes

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insert screenshot of diamond nunu having 16 deaths in a ranked game. A ranked game

Nice try to talk about 300 games now, and how he managed to climb

oSEXYPLATYPUSo2 votes

well if he is taking jungle camps from enemy and counter jungling therefore he gets gold and experience and sets the enemy jungler back by lack of camps and gold and experience

im not advocating for or against what this player did... but so what... he tried something out... tried to be creative and use a strategy in game... that i do not blame him for...

you dont know something does or dont work unless you try and test it... and you need a fairly large sample size to go off of. 10 games wouldnt be enough ... now maybe he reached his sample size and has figured out maybe this dont work really well . and now maybe after the 14 day ban and all the hate he gets from people like yourself maybe he will try something else to see if it works.

Alevity Xiaku1 votes

That would be the case if in the games I watched of his he didn't spend most of the game aimlessly walking around the river and walking into the enemy jungle to see no camps available then immediately getting collapsed by the jungler and top laner.

0/6 at 5 minutes in the game isn't gaining gold or exp. It's feeding.

MysterQ1 votes

People have asked for the video link.

He admitted himself it is a high risk style. And if his team doesn't communicate with him ha), it is even more risk.

Alevity Xiaku2 votes

None of you get the point. I could win 100% of my games and play on meta. But if I'm a jackass who makes the experience bad for my team in even 50% of those games, yes I deserve to be banned.

Escheton3 votes

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None of you get the point. I could win 100% of my games and play on meta. But if I'm a jackass who makes the experience bad for my team in even 50% of those games, yes I deserve to be banned.

You are missing the point that salty people have bad experiences almost always, and look for a scapegoat. While positive people don't mind this kind of behavior (Nunu) because they will try to work with it and win.

Noone should be punished because you(they) are a salty person. Stop being a salty person.

VvVVvV2 votes

I agree with everything you are saying but this post is getting down votes from others because of your wording used. I once tested this forum a long time ago by posting 2 different post....both saying the same thing but one was in a negative tone and the other using more careful chosen words. I posted them about 2 weeks apart. The `1st one got a lot of down votes....the 2nd one was upvoted and they both basically was saying the same thing. And it was amazing to me to even see some of the same people who responded to the negative tone post disagreeing with me and probably down voted ....agreed with me on the 2nd post that wasnt negative toned.

My Sea Cow1 votes

I don't see why anyone should have an issue with it if the whole team AGREES to it.

In the video the person posted, the Caitlyn (from what my bf and I saw) did not complain once or ask him to come into lane. In fact I didn't see any laner complain once about him which means they were okay with him playing Nunu the way he was playing.

People forget that the support is not just the adcs babysitter. They are the WHOLE teams support and should be roaming and helping control objectives and helping other lanes. Yet as someone myself who is trying to main support, the second I leave lane even to ward the river (let alone help jungler kill the enemy jungler in the jungle or river) I get flamed for leaving adc alone.

Get out of the mindset that support is an adc babysitter...we are not. We are a whole team support. Before this meta was in place the adc went mid lane solo.

As long as the person knows what they are doing and EVERYONE (I will repeat EVERYONE especially the adc) is okay with it, why can't he? There is no rule saying you have to stay with meta. If there was then shouldn't people have been reported for taking Malz or Velkoz bot lane?

Alevity Xiaku3 votes

I've been playing support more often because I haven't had as much fun playing adc. So I picked up Sona. Had a game where the ADC wasn't going in when I set up kills and Yasuo was losing trades. So I decided to go mid and give Yasuo a couple kills, ward the side he ignored and came back bot when we took mid tower. I know all about roaming and helping your team. Hell I'd say I've been climbing faster than ever since picking up Sona given the garbage in low elo.

However, from what I saw (a game where ezreal was the adc) he did not roam to help the team. No his ganks weren't even very significant. More so than not he died when he came in. Or stayed too long to die when he could have left. He only came bot for an unsuccessful counter gank where the adc died anyway. Most of the game was him walking around to find no camps to kill. And when he found one he died.

A support supporting the whole team is going around and doing what needs to be done to push your teammates a little to be successful. If you aren't even doing that or at bare minimum keeping the adc alive, you aren't doing your job as a support. A supports job is for the team. If he is not a team player, he deserves to be punished for that. He could be ANY off meta or EVEN meta player and if he is playing how he plays Nunu and got 50% reports, he'd still be punished.

Sorry he may have been challenger when Nunu was good, but this game has clearly changed.

My Sea Cow1 votes

However, from what I saw (a game where ezreal was the adc)

Did not see that game...can only go off what I saw...post link?

But support isn't just about setting up counter ganks...it's about vision control, and objective control also...clearing out wards, playing key wards, and so on. Yes, setting up counter ganks is a part of it but it's more then just that. I can only go off of the one video I saw of him play, so whatever video you two are talking about I cannot comment on, as I did not see it.

If he was caught over and over again for the same reason, then yes he was dumb for doing it over and over the same way especially at his rank I can't and won't justify that.

VvVVvV2 votes

I dont think he cares about the off meta pick...he is saying that the guy was 0-6 in 5 minutes. So i mean...if you go in enemy jungle and get caught and die...ok. But then you go in their jungle again and get caught again. How long do you allow someone to die the same way over and over without making no attempt to change the way they are playing that is getting them killed before you think "ok he is either inting, or just doesnt care?"

That is the same as if you see enemy running past a ward and you ping your top laner but they choose to ignore the ping and keep farming and get caught....then later it happens again and again......that is not just a bad game.

My Sea Cow1 votes

okay I'm not sure what video you're watching but the video that I saw he was not 0/6 in 5 minutes so share video? I can only go off the video I saw so that's what I'm giving input on.

Yes if he's going in over and over again and repeating the same mistakes, then yes idiot bronze mistake that he shouldn't be repeating...cannot excuse that

deoje2991 votes

He knows Nunu counter jungle support is garbage. <

If this is true then explain how he got to challenger using this strategy. It cant be that bad if it works this well.

Alevity Xiaku2 votes

Simple. He got to challenge in a different season by playing Nunu jungle when it was more viable.

Verxint1 votes

"Why do I always get these trolls in my game riot fix your punishment system it doesn't work"

"OMG why did you ban this guy who was clearly willing to troll his teammates if he didn't get his way wtf riot"

MysterQ1 votes

You don't even know.

All his team had to do was ban Nunu. Then he has to dodge. I don't see why they didn't

Golden Tager X1 votes

He got to high diamond playing it, I kinda think that rules it out as garbage don't you?

Well actually I am just gonna assume you are an adc player, completely helpless.

Winning the majority of your games is what matters. I could care less if you went Thresh adc, if you won me the game, good fucking shit man.

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