Some Quick Comments on the Morde changes

Adrian Umbra·8/5/2015, 7:09:29 AM·5 votes·415 views

Since the main rework thread is on the PBE, which I can't comment on, I wanted to put in my two cents (which means creating a thread here). First some comments to forumgoers who I've been seeing goof. His E lost no damage at level one. It gains damage when left at level 1 and ends up with slightly less damage at level 5 when built AP (more if he builds AD). His W can no longer be used on minions and CertainlyT has essentially stated that he doesn't want to try to balance solo lane Mordekaiser. Wonder what that feels like.

Second, some comments on the MS change and a quote from the main thread by CertainlyT regarding the change. For those who don't know, Morde has been moved from 340 base MS to 325, from middle of the pack to bottom bracket on movement speed. The current justification is below or found here: http://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/champions-gameplay-feedback/KhcvQBlG-mordekaiser-change-summary-feedback-thread?comment=00030000.

It might be. I certainly didn't start at 325. In fact, I was very hesitant and moved him down 5 MS at a time as opponents reported being completely unable to escape his onslaught. A major factor for this is that Mordekaiser has the base damage and base survivability to invest into a lot of movement speed items as the game progresses (Our playtesters often build him Targons-->Ninja Tabi->Phage->Trinity Force->Raptor Cloak->Rylai's).

I think you might also be coming at this from the perspective of someone who has played "traditional" melee bot lanes, that must function as aggressive kill lanes in order to find any success. Mordekaiser has the scaling and defenses to whittle his opponents down and wait for a good opportunity (like a Thresh hook).

Of course people who build lots of MS are going to be fast. The issue here is that if he needs all these items (like the seldom built and situational Raptor Cloak) to catch his enemies and stick to them, maybe you've gone too far or can nerf one of his tools, like his W, instead of his base stats. I'd like to try to play him AP instead of being forced into building Phage, please.

Third, why force him into being an AD bruiser, especially after the removal of AD ratios from ghosts? He had a nice niche as a solo pushing AP bruiser who turned his opponents' pain into his tool, now all of those aspects are being downplayed so that he's an odd duo lane hybrid melee carry. I appreciate going for uniqueness, but you've sort of destroyed Morde's identity as the champion I (and many others) fell in love with for the sake of a gimmick. This isn't Karma or Xerath level identity change, either, this is full out destruction of the champion champion's role. But since Riot's pushed through every rework that's made it to the PBE, I guess I just have to kiss Morde goodbye.

Just wanted to get that off my chest. @Meddler, @CertainlyT if you want to defend the rework or discuss any of these points, go ahead and post. If y'all agree, go ahead and upvote, if y'all disagree, feel free to downvote and post why in the comments.

4 Comments

kagepaladin8/5/2015, 7:26:06 AM1 votes

Targons-->Ninja Tabi->Phage->Trinity Force->Raptor Cloak->Rylai's). aside from the rylais... um WTF are they building. ive always built linandrys sorc boots homegaurd gunblade either ryliais or abby scepter ludens echo then rabadons.

Binxy Prime8/5/2015, 8:41:22 AM1 votes

New morde must have decent ad scaling or something. Anyways I was excited to get some small changes and buffs to be slightly less oppressive in lane but to have a more consistent late game. In no way did I expect that they would take my favorite champ and completely change his damage type, his role, and his lane.

I'm a 30 year old man and I am literally tearing up a little because I got all excited that they were going to make him more interesting and instead they competely ruined a champion I love. I guess I don't have to feel bad for the Garen players anymore since I got the worst end of the stick. Skarners changes were kind of pointless but at least they were overall buffs, Darius had great changes. I just cant understand why this happened to Mordekaiser.