Fiora

I do like the ideas behind the skills, but the implementation is horrible. She is supposed so be a fighter / assassin, but there is no burst. Yeah the Ulti needs to be changed but the new one? To hit a vital spot in lane is hard enough because your enemy is also aware of his vital. She feels like a tank, I miss her mobility and her speed and her 1 on 1 power even w/o her Ult. She isn't a duelist anymore...she lacks the speed from her e and damage from her w passive. The new lunge isn't as good as her old one was in terms of chasing, but now you are able to use it to engage or disegage over a wall. Her new W is nice against poke but to inconvenient to use in a direct 1 on 1. This E spell, I don't like it. Only 1 way to use. Her overall speed in terms of waveclear has dropped drastically. This new ult isn't worth mentioning. Only time you get all 4 spots is if you get your opponent stunned.

Overall compared to all other fighter/assassins she is by far the weakest. She is a shadow of her former self.

FIORA IS THE WEAKEST CHAMP ATM!! SHE SUCKS! I HATE THE NEW REWORK!

Her ult is absolutely useless... You don't get anything out of it unless you hit the vitals; but you die before being able to hit them all... its pretty ass. The grand duelist can't even 1v1 half the damn time, and this stupid pathetic ult... I mean for real! What kind of crap ult is this for a "Grand Duelist" -- her ult is so team reliant she's not about dueling 1v1 anymore... its sad, its pathetic and I am so salty. I loved Fiora... now I don't want to play her ever again unless something changes.They should focus on making her more of a 1v1 champ and sticking to that, this ult needs to change or it needs to go... she needs something that will buff her or allow her to sustain/survive fights... because I mean for real... she can't do sh!t in this game anymore.

Buff? I have seen LOTS of Fiora carries on the new rework. I was thinking nerfs if anything.

You might as well just DELETE Fiora! Who knows, maybe that was the intended result. You have completely destroyed what was one of the most fun champs you had. Her ult is retarded and completely useless in any game mode. No burst, no quickness, and her parry and ult demobilize her even more. Everything that was once interesting and cool about her is gone, and all that's left is her cerebral Palsy run animation. WTH is wrong with you RIOT? You srsly need to fire who ever created and approved her rework. I mean wow, just wow.

I'm going to go play that crappy Blizz RTS for awhile and blow off some steam.

No

its too soon to speak due to her skill cap

people wanted to buff azir at release too ... what do we have now ?

Dear Riot, Fuck you. Fiora was one of my favorite champs and you guys 100% ruined her. Shes completely useless and I'm never going to play her again unless you change her back and admit you fucked up or change her into something playable. Until now I've always thought Riot has done a good job at reworking champs and making them better, like Sion. But Fiora was a massive fuck up and I'm just disappointed in the lack of creativity there is so many other ways that you could have reworked Fiora and you guys chose the easiest, least thoughtful way of doing so and as a result you have ruined a champion completely.

Bump to remind people these are the types of idiots that get champions overbuffed when they're perfectly fine

Her early game is pretty good actually, she could use a buff to her scaling and a bit more move speed, since you tend to fall off a bit mid game and if you use Q to get in range you don't have it up to proc duelists dance. She's currently in a spot where she can outplay people, but needs to do so every time in order to win, which would be fine if that was the norm, but if you have a lead you don't really feel it as much as you would on other similar champions, a lot of her power seems to be budgeted towards her new passive, maybe too much. I like the new kit overall though, it's super fun.

There are a few bugs I've noticed though, like if you are inside the passive indicator there is a chance it won't proc, and the actual indicator is a bit dim, so it is sometimes hard to tell if you hit one or not.

I feel like this new Fiora could be good if her passive would proc like it is supposed to. Sometimes even if you are hitting the "side" the vital point is on, it won't proc, just because you are hitting it at an angle. It seems you have to be directly lined up with the center of the vital to proc it, which is a lot harder than just hitting the general area. Maybe this was intended because it seems vitals appear immediately after procing, and if you could hit them at an angle you would just rack of tons of dmg right. What's worse is if you are too close to the champion, even if you are perfectly lined up with the center of the vital, it won't proc at all if you hit it. So the whole intention of this new passive is to make Fiora awkwardly walk up to the opponent, angle herself perfectly toward her opponent, not get too close to them, then hit them? All of this is made thousands of times more awkward by her weird walking cycle. I'm not quite sure what she is doing, it kind of looks like she is leaping like a ballerina with each step, or she is doing some kind of wide high step march, either way, her legs are just spreading out so far it doesn't look right.

I think they really low balled this rework because they are too afraid of op releases, they would rather a up release that they can buff in 6 months. Just sucks we always have to wait 6 months for a champion who was fine to become playable again because Riot cant balance champions.

hell we should do a petition for them to change her ult or take out that vital crap when she ult so we can get the heal when we hit 4 times OR make it to be 2 vital instead of 4. i don't like her ult because of that (its a janna ult, basically sup ult) and her w, i think it should be like the old one and stay with the slow and stun. to me this ins't a rework its a complete nerf. i win lane with her but its with out plays not with ult, and during mid game no matter how i build her, full crit atk speed, full damage, full tank or irelia type build, none has work, she cant really 1v1 anyone anymore because of her ult. she's so useless at the moment. her ult doesnt go with who shes suppose to be a assassin/fighter, to me it doesnt feel like a true fencer just someone who has to hit and run away every secon and her w is sooo long of a CD. she isnt fun at all.

this full fiora rework is the reason i will never buy another skin on lol what a joke ,you got a champ you loved and had skins for because she was your goto,well nomore i cant even dual top lane till mid game lol duelest how funny

Perfect example of low skilled players complaining about things before really learning. Was watching Voyboy's stream the other day on his Master/Challenger account and some guy got in his game three times in a row on Fiora...aced his team game after game after game. It was disgusting.

She is no longer an assassin she has been demoted. people argue the following points

1. her R was point and click no skills used and now you have to work at least ans- garen's R is same point and boom, we have many players who have no skill work involved just click and voila so why should fiora's ult suffer.
2. her r was un avoidable ans- just get a zonya's and see how useless that becomes so no argument there.

and there are many others but here are my point

1. she walks like i don't know a bird?
2. i played her because she was a melee ADC champ, an assassin now she is no more. 3.i tried playing with her after reworks and was willing to re learn my strategies but SHE IS JUST NOT THE SAME "NO FUN" playing her anymore now i don't have an assassin that i like and made this game worthwhile.
3. whenever i press r in solo Queue the person opposite me flashes or runs and my r is wasted, so the r is pretty much useless for an assassin like her ( for people arguing this point here's my counter just give any other assassin a R which heals and you have to run about to get done, they would also lose their core like fiora did.

suggestions from me to RIOT

1. You could have introduced a new champ if you wanted to change this much. 2.Just give her a simple R even if similar to garen, which atleast damages enemies like an assassin i dont want her as a fighter and im sure many people played her for her pure damage output and simple mechanics. I don'r want a mini game whenever i press R.

overall this was one of the worst champ updates in history of lol a blunder, not all the thought process that went into it was bad but the result was absolutely rubbish.

positives of old fiora 1.with her previous R i could have tower dived the most fun thing in previous fiora. 2. her E was a speed steroid i destroyed towers and healed good amounts of health when combating. 3. Her W provided extra damage and defense against AA champs. 4. her Q provided two lunges and well i never strayed always landed on champs. 5.Her default skin was WAY WAY better than current default.

the old fiora people would argue was op, well she had her positives and negatives, she had no escape, no cc, even morgana could hold her and boom she's dead a little cc on her during team fight and she's dead. but that's what fun was an assassin get in kill your target and get out. she is not that anymore. if that doesnt matches to her duelist profile then please Riot just create another champs with her previous powers. it was way more fun.

I rarely play the old fiora, the new one I am excited about it. After trying several times I feel her Q, E is fine, her W and Ult somehow not that rewarding.. W got too much cooldown, it coulda be like her Q, if she successfully riposte either Aa or CC the CD should be cut.

About her Ult.. The moment ult activated she only gained MS, nothing else, and have to hit 4 times or 1 times and ally kill to trigger and get some reward.

Usually top laner ult got a quite big impact the moment it is activated or hit the enemy, Fiora's ult just... not giving her anything the moment it is activated, nasus and Renek got HP boost and AoE magic damage, Rumble got dps on the ground, J4 immidiately damage enemy and cage it.

I just hope they design her ult bit better, her basic skill is fine it's just her ult.

Plus she need team full of CC, so I just feel the "duelist" title shoulda be changed she is more teamplayer now rather than duelist.

I'm just sitting here trying to comprehend whether or not this topic is sarcastic.

Is this some elaborate troll?

Over in Dominion-land Fiora is one of the most oppressive bottom laners in the game. The only champ who can consistently deal with her is AD Malz, but AD Malz is just stupid in general. Try sending her top and split pushing or something.

New Fiora is fantastic. Not to mention fun to play as/against. I always hated seeing old Fiora because I knew it was literally just 'Press R' YOU WIN!

Now her ultimate is less reliable, sure, but now it has so much utility that it NEEDS to be unreliable. Just cast it on a low hp target or a tank and you have a free full team heal that scales massively with AD. You know, one of the only stats you should be itemizing for.

I'm getting her Project skin as soon as possible. Happy to have a new main top lane carry. :)