I'm not sure why people are saying Vlad is weak or anything..

Defended·May 20, 2016·1 votes·533 views

Just fought one. The fact that you can have over 3.5k health while building massive MR n Rylais slow all while Healing more than a Nasus Q and doing That much damage...

Thats pretty crazy

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WoonStruckMay 20, 20161 votes

Okay, okay, think about this for a second.

Gnar, who isn't considered strong right now, can do just as much damage while building tankier.

Now consider this: Gnar has mobility, CC, and poke. Gnar can engage. Gnar can peel.

Then think about this: Vlad pays 350+ true damage every 5 second or less. I know you're going to argue "THAT Q THO", but you're only making back about 800 health over 3 Qs. Meanwhile you spent over 1k. It might be acceptable if he weren't also taking damage, but with that range, he's even likely to be the one getting focused. He won't even have time to get 2 Qs.

And now think about how inconsistent Vlad is now, especially for his range and amount of CC.

Vlad is weak. You just don't know how to fight him if he seemed strong, even though the game tells you how every time he attempts anything. A fed Eve is gunna seem strong too, but that doesn't mean she isn't insanely weak atm.

Buy MR and watch as his E hurts him more than it hurts you. If anyone gets a Locket, he becomes hilariously weak if your team is intelligent enough to supplement that with their own MR. Its laughably pathetic how bad he is right now, and its not numbers: its general design because Void Staff doesn't really help the issue either.

DefendedMay 20, 20161 votes

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Okay, okay, think about this for a second.

Gnar, who isn't considered strong right now, can do just as much damage while building tankier.

Now consider this: Gnar has mobility, CC, and poke. Gnar can engage. Gnar can peel.

Then think about this: Vlad pays 350+ true damage every 5 second or less. I know you're going to argue "THAT Q THO", but you're only making back about 800 health over 3 Qs. Meanwhile you spent over 1k. It might be acceptable if he weren't also taking damage, but with that range, he's even likely to be the one getting focused. He won't even have time to get 2 Qs.

And now think about how inconsistent Vlad is now, especially for his range and amount of CC.

Vlad is weak. You just don't know how to fight him if he seemed strong, even though the game tells you how every time he attempts anything. A fed Eve is gunna seem strong too, but that doesn't mean she isn't insanely weak atm.

Buy MR and watch as his E hurts him more than it hurts you. If anyone gets a Locket, he becomes hilariously weak if your team is intelligent enough to supplement that with their own MR. Its laughably pathetic how bad he is right now, and its not numbers: its general design because Void Staff doesn't really help the issue either.

It seems you're a vlad player from looking at your lolking.

''If anyone gets a locket he becomes hilariously weak'' ? I didnt know what 15 MR completely nullifies a champion.. The dudes bull

WoonStruckMay 20, 20161 votes

You're paying 10% of your health in true damage for 10% in magic damage. That means it starts out 80% efficient. Locket/aegis makes that 70% efficient. You buy an MR item now, most champions are dropping that to 50% efficient. Void Staff brings it back up to around 70%.

So you end up paying more than you get out in the large majority of cases if you're playing against competent players.

Don't say 'The dudes bull' if you aren't even going to think about the situation logically.

That's not even mentioning how his Q doesn't come close to making his E sustainable, which is half the problem.

Same DPS, less reliable, takes longer to set-up, longer CDs, and more sustain only if you're under 50% hp. He was at a 45% win rate before, and the rework made him less consistent without fixing any of his previous issues.

Try to tell me again how Vlad's strong.

AdaloreMay 20, 20161 votes

I think he fine right now, he just requires play that is very different than before. He pretty much wants every cdr item that isn't mana attached with a side of rylias.

Gotta get dat cdr more than anything to get fully functional.

A lot of people must be floundering because the "I don't know what to build" path of WotA is gone.

WoonStruckMay 20, 20161 votes

You build Rylai's if you can AFK farm, SV, Abyssal, Zhonya's, etc if you're struggling.

If its a game you won't need 2 MR items, you use a higher CDR rune page.

What to build isn't what's making Vlad weak. How to play him isn't what's making Vlad weak.

Vlad is just weak. He lacks impact against teams that have the forethought to buy any MR, even after he grabs Void Staff. His Q is so unreliable that people rarely grab significant AP, and his E doesn't offer enough to carry his HP builds.

Not to mention the bugs, inconsistencies, contradictory gameplay implications, an ult that's so weak with his new kit that its basically win-more now, ESPECIALLY the pointless heal they added...yeah.