Junglers I don't want and New ones I want

Chad Te Employee·10/14/2016, 2:07:11 AM·1 votes·738 views

So, preseason is coming and clearly riot is accepting junglers into the PBE so I thought let's make a post about junglers in the new season.

Jungling is the way champions with hard lanes can still make it as they aren't contested unless invaded. It is like what, 75% passive farming if you are someone like old kogmaw or heck even yi depending on the match ups.

I do however hate the ability for some champs to be able to jungle and unless you contest them early they will become annoying nuisances. Can't exactly gank a person you can't see.

Though I do want to see some champions in the jungle that currently aren't Here is my list

Twitch Going invisible and then firing with his annoying assassin like abilities from far away with his ult or even just ganking you from next to your tower with his q, He is a pest and I agree with one of the earlier posts about ranged ADCs need to stop showing up in different lanes (as long as they can be ADCS, sorry I have a bias towards Graves jg and Teemo )

Fizz To be honest I love fizz jungle slow clear, but mhm ganks are the best. Though being on the receiving side is annoying because his mobility even when warded is insane. If you notice the trend is annoying little pests that I want to wring the necks of. Fizz with his kit should be a laner I think it's just fair that way. When fizz feeds he can't do damage without an ult, if the fizz feeds in lane he (most likely) is never going to do much as he IS a squishy target, how ever FIzz with his ult destroys and squishy and with invulnerability and his q and the massive slow it's really easy to close the gap. So why let Fizz feed in the jg, only gank with his ult and boom, profits.

Kayle Pretty simple, kayle has a toxic kit and hey hey hey passive farming and invul ult is someone invades you sounds like an easy way to late game.

Before you get all fussy and mad, this is A. based on experience. B. Not saying that any of these champs are op in the jungle and C. Their kits are countered by killing early and snowballing . While there are other champs like that, they have already been in the jungle and usually laning is just awful MasterYi Nunu Zac

Now here are 3 champs I want in the jungle.

Talon Hopefully with his new kit the acting with terrain means something, I'm honestly excited as his kit allows him to gank without an ult up, but he lacks cc WHICH is why the terrain intrigues me, maybe a new alternative to cc.

Jayce Imagine if he was meta jungler, he would be like hecarim as he could gank you from your blue side and still deal damage especially with his E+q (ranged) and e+q (melee) for a follow up. Mhm

Tryndamere People hate that he's lost his identity, so how about an even more "fun" one where you gank the enemy regardless where they are and just safely ult out as long as you can provide enough damage with your laner. (TBH could care less about his identity as a split pusher, but apparently people think he just isn't what he once was)

Provide CC (Constructive criticism) and ideas, i'll be stunned if someone can make a better suggestion to the jungle meta

2 Comments

Alamo Jack10/14/2016, 3:23:40 AM1 votes

I disagree with fizz, kayle, and twitch. Those three are beyond easy to punish in the jungle early on and have terrible gank potential until they get items. Kayle and twitch become monsters with items if they don't get punished, but that's just how those champs play.

I don't really have any junglers that I don't want to see. Even meta junglers have some form of obvious weakness. If I had to pick any it would be elise or nidalee though.

They both are extremely easy to jungle with and do well at all stages of the game. Elise especially, she can be behind and still be useful because of her kit, but she doesn't have a consistently reliable way to escape when she goes in. So if she's behind she's forced to play reactive with her cocoon. I don't see Elise perform well unless they get ahead early, but then they just destroy anything.

Nidalee is just super strong right now in the jungle, but she's weak to all ins. If she's behind then she's mediocre at best, but still useful enough in terms of supporting teammates and taking objectives. She also has a very reliable get in and get out play style, combined with strong poke and great mobility. Gotta land them spears though.

Junglers that I would like to see? I really like Rumble jungle and even though it is viable, it's not anywhere near top tier. I have seen some very high ranked players do it successfully but that's hard to emulate for the average player. I'd like to see him come back though, in the jungle.

Another is Leona. I don't like her for support atm because she's too easy to counter play and very predictable. I feel like if her clears were better, she would be a great jungler if you need a tank jungle.

I'd also like to see Fiora but her kit is wasted in the jungle. I just like the champ so I'd like to play it jungle if it was competitively viable. I think her top lane identity is good though.