Guys, ADCS aren't assassins

Chad Te Employee·Sep 29, 2016·5 votes·1,064 views

So why is doing the same damage with their autos and almost every marksmen doing the same damage with just autos and the same burst time AND Lifesteal?

34 Comments

ModWulf HelhammerSep 29, 20166 votes

Twitch is actually supposed to be assassin like.

Vayne is only dealing a bunch of damage late game (more specifically, her late game. Meaning don't feed her)

Caitlyn doesn't really have burst unless you allow her to get repeat headshots on you

Chad Te EmployeeSep 29, 20161 votes

Name an assassin who has a ranged burst and can attack the farthest distance with autos that 3-4-5 a squishy.

Watcha vayne with full crit. She is late game but that kind of damage is ridiculous for waiting 30 minutes

Headshot>E>Headshot>Ult. Thanks to a support it decimated my health, how ever she doesn't have the burst, but she's got tons of range

ModWulf HelhammerSep 29, 20166 votes

....you didn't really read my post did you?

MunchCrunchLunchSep 29, 20161 votes

allow her? she can animation cancel 3 headshots in a row just by standing on one trap

AgentBlackSep 29, 20165 votes

Have any of those 3 ADCs 1v1 a traditional Assassin. Let me know how it goes. Then tell me ADCs have Assassin-level burst.

Chad Te EmployeeSep 29, 20161 votes

Teamfights. Teamfights

ABlueQuakerSep 29, 20165 votes

They invest heavily into AD and Crit Chance. If they have 350 AD and they crit 2 times with IE that's like 1800 damage right there before resistances.

To do this they forfeit defensive steroids and have pretty woeful base and scaling HP, Armor and MR.

If you let an ADC get in 4 consecutive unmitigated and uninterrupted basic attacks, you probably deserve to get killed.

SaiannaSep 29, 20162 votes

Just 4 attacks? Don't you think this is getting "slightly" out of control?

ABlueQuakerSep 29, 20161 votes

No. Not at all. If I can maintain my range advantage over and/or avoid the cc of another adc, or a support, or a mage, or an assassin I should be able to easily dispose of them. If they can CC me or close the gap I have no right to live and even less right to deal any damage to them.

Tanks/Juggernauts/Bruisers are a completely different matter. They're the ones that ADCs need assistance with otherwise they're gonna get zoned by them for the duration of the teamfight.

SpoofghoulSep 29, 20161 votes

But here is the thing

they have range, and often also either mobility or cc

range is already one of the best defenses in the game mobility and cc are second

so i would argue despite being touted as squishy they do have some of the best, more commonly available, defensive tools

The defensive tools are ofcoarse availabel to assassins and skirmishers with invulnerability, untargetability or flat out redirecting anything or huge damage reduction. and ofcoarse a ton of mobility

it's weird isn't it, how tthe actual ''best'' defensive tools are on the championbs which ahve the highest damage aswell

but whatever

Feed DaddySep 29, 20164 votes

Bronze 3 sure sounds fun

Chad Te EmployeeSep 29, 20161 votes

your rank doesn't amplify damage?

Feed DaddySep 29, 20163 votes

And assassins are level 6 when adcs are level 4 so if you dont roflstomp shut them down by roaming why even lock in an assassin.

Chad Te EmployeeSep 29, 20161 votes

Ever heard of late game, where everyones got gear and good levels? Nah im sure you high tier always end at 20 right?

Feed DaddySep 29, 20161 votes

Lol assassins are all about early/mid game.

Thats like saying why cant I win on Pantheon after 35 minutes. I dun get it herp de derp.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoSep 29, 20161 votes

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Ever heard of late game, where everyones got gear and good levels? Nah im sure you high tier always end at 20 right?

late game assassin fall off cuz every one is full build and have def items like item 3026 and adcs are all meant to be late game champs cuz of crit builds

TyroneWatermelonSep 29, 20161 votes

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Bronze 3 sure sounds fun

Atleast you tried son.

Feed DaddySep 29, 20161 votes

I mean I wasnt trying cuz I had no explanation but now I explained it a little and I doubt it can even comprehend what I said.

SylvantSep 29, 20163 votes

the difference is adcs lack the mobility and slows assassins have. To deal that high damage they leave their comfort zone and become extremely vulnerable. Same goes to assassins, but they have a better control over the ability to leave battle field...they also have higher burst combo, lets not lie to ourselves. ADC's have have more requirements to execute a good combo. In the case of twitch, he needs a frontline, he needs to time his invis perfectly and get into good posiiton, Cait should score a trap, land an E. Assassins answer to very similar requirements, but they have more control over them.

A Bad MysticSep 29, 20162 votes

If caitlyns doing assassin lvl burst you stepped on her trap and got passive autoed by it, got passive autoed, and got netted plus passive autoed again. thats the only thing i can think of that would let her damage be on par with assassins.

A Bad MysticSep 29, 20162 votes

Another thing is that these adcs when they get shut down (less so for caitlyn cause her passive procs and range allow her to stay safe) are absolute garbage.

RandomoniumSep 29, 20162 votes

No ADC has assasin level burst. An assasin can kill a squishy in less than a second if he executes his combo correctly. No ADC can do that. Yes over 4-5 seconds the ADC will do more damage than an assasin but ADCS also have fewer escape tools than assassins, lower base health and lower resistances.

If you let an ADC freely auto attack and don't force him to move and kite during a team fight then you deserve to lose it. ADCs need peel to deal maximum damage. Assassins need no one to kill an enemy.

YOU LOST LMAOSep 29, 20161 votes

Did someone say Burst?

Final Boss Veigar main.

Chad Te EmployeeSep 29, 20161 votes

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YOU LOST LMAOSep 29, 20163 votes

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Yasuo high ban rate. Talon low pick rate. Zed = Veigar item 3157 summoner 3

ModWulf HelhammerSep 29, 20161 votes

That's going to help a bunch when Veigar has over 600 AP and a point and click nuke

TyroneWatermelonSep 29, 20161 votes

When your braindead Vayne at the start of the teamfight dives to assassinate the enemy marksman and then screams "OMG no peel noobs" in all chat...and if I blow up all my bullshit just to protect her and she survives because she right clicks properly(and nothing else because Vayne is all about right clicking) she types "ez mechanix"

JalkanSep 29, 20161 votes

late game

Sir FuzziSep 29, 20161 votes

Stacks, stacks, proc.

So let's get this straight, when you take it it's an OP champ; when I take it I'm out of position and unskilled. Right?

NarvuntienSep 29, 20161 votes

Twitch is an assassin though.

Lucian can also play as an AD caster with an assassin like style

( MissFortune and Jhin also are AD casters with high burst just not in an assassin style)

WolfessSep 29, 20161 votes

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is an assassin though.

can also play as an AD caster with an assassin like style

( and also are AD casters with high burst just not in an assassin style)

Varus the unseen piercing arrow in the butt is the deadliest.