How to make me fine with the morde rework

Bârd·Aug 5, 2015·3 votes·838 views

Q: Splash damage plz

W: Make it possible to just cast this on yourself.

Cmon, he has always been a solo lane champion, at least let us do that.

E: Only lower the base damage by an amount around 60% of Mordes base AD, so that if we build AP, it does the same damage, but we can build AD if we want.

6 Comments

samburrit0Aug 5, 20152 votes

bruh you get a pet dragon, be happy

Reaper ReviewAug 5, 20151 votes

Fun fact: At rank 1, Siphon of Destruction does at least the exact same damage it does on live.

Live Siphon: 70 PBE Siphon: 35 + 0.6 AD

Morde's base AD is 58. 60% of that is 34.8, rounded up to 35. 35 + 35 = 70.

I'm not sure about the higher levels offhand, but Morde's AD/level was increased by 1.5, so it should remain roughly equal, if not only very slightly weaker, which is alright since its CD also goes down by 0.25 seconds per rank.

ErockandrollAug 5, 20151 votes

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Fun fact: At rank 1, Siphon of Destruction does at least the exact same damage it does on live.

Live Siphon: 70 PBE Siphon: 35 + 0.6 AD

Morde's base AD is 58. 60% of that is 34.8, rounded up to 35. 35 + 35 = 70.

I'm not sure about the higher levels offhand, but Morde's AD/level was increased by 1.5, so it should remain roughly equal, if not only very slightly weaker, which is alright since its CD also goes down by 0.25 seconds per rank.

AD per level has been increased to 5.

The difference between old and new base is 35/50/65/80/95

So at level 9 you would have nearly a 100 AD give or take. so 60 damage from AD. which is a minus of 35 damage.

But this assumes two things. A) your not building any extra AD, and B) your choosing it to max first. I would not say what the optimal build is until I see if for myself.

ScarPirateAug 5, 20151 votes

if building ap, you do the same damage, off of bases, until ranked 5. then the hybrid build is better. ad is kinda meh

Meep ManAug 5, 20151 votes

Guys, Morde's new Q deals upwards of 900 damage on the third strike just with the AP ratio after he has three 100-120 AP giving items. Thats just the third strike as well.

Some things to note as well...

As mentioned above, Mordekaiser's Q deals over 900 damage with around 3 AP items with the final strike. That excludes the first two strikes.
Forgotten by most, Mordekaiser gets some of the target he curses bonus health when he gets their soul. That also counts for Dragon. Mordekaiser gets around 500+ health for killing Dragon and then can use his ultimate to get that target's health and AP. This together gives him around 800+ free health for killing Dragon and then following up with a kill. Also, towers do not prioritize Dragon Soul so Dragon gets to maul away at the turret Mordekaiser is attacking for it's full lifetime.
Mordekaiser can W his Dragon Soul (I believe) or allied ghost, so if he kills someone in solo lane he can then W his ghost to get enhanced follow up potential.
Mordekaiser's Q applies on-spell effects, so his Q applies the Rylai's 40% slow every hit.

Mordekaiser was NOT pushed to Bottom Lane. He can go there, but he can rip a Top Laner to shreds.

By the way, the numbers on his Q are: First Strike- 3/6/9/12/15 (+20% AD) (+20% AP) magic damage plus 100% AD physical Second Strike- 6/13.5/22.5/33/45 (+40/45/50/55/60% AD) (+40/45/50/55/60% AP) magic damage plus 100% AD physical Third Strike- 12/30.375/56.25/90.75/135 (+80/101.25/125/151.25/180% AD) (+80/101.25/125/151.25/180% AP) magic damage plus 100% AD physical In case you didn't know.

ArcticSiriusAug 5, 20151 votes

Top lane Mordekaiser won't be able to take that dragon unless he runs tele (which most go ignite/flash). His W is unable to be cast on minions or just self for some (miniscul but helpful) damage and a heal. Unable to cast R while having a dragon leaves him without a nuke and another heal.