Except in this case its an assassin building nearly full tank and still putting out some decent damage instead of a melee carry building bruiser and putting out fuckle tons of damage.
Riot its clear there is some kind of issue going on here if all these high damage champions are building tanky and being successful with these builds.
weeaboomer2 votesHer damage is mediocre wtf. If that Q does no dmg, then neither does she.
HandheldBrandon1 votesWhere did i say her damage was amazing?
All i said was decent damage which she does just not all at once.
DrNova2 votesNo, alkali building tanky is not a problem.
Her damage output barely gets to "decent". You can build non tanky champs tanky, they will get mediocre damage, but I fail to see how that's a problem..
Little Stick Man1 votesher power lies in her ability to stick to a target and do damage over like 15 seconds, shes not bursty at all
HandheldBrandon1 votesI never said anything about her being bursty i just said decent damage that was it.
Little Stick Man1 votesyou also said "Riot its clear there is some kind of issue going on here if all these high damage champions are building tanky and being successful with these builds."
shes not high damage. not even really decent damage if it trickles out over an entire teamfight. you just cant get her off of you because shes has like 4 targeted dashes.
HandheldBrandon1 votesBecause Originally she builds as a glass Cannon and instantly deletes people (Well she used to anyway). Hence i also said "But in this case its an assassin going nearly full tank rather than a melee ADC".
So far the biggest tanky bruiser issues we have had is with Champions like Fiora and Yi who are building some damage items and then going full tank but still outputting serious levels of damage. Akali is supposed to be of the champions who are the epitome of high damage being an assassin but instead shes building nearly full tank and putting out okay damage which inherently tells me something is wrong when everyone would rather build bruiser and tanky instead of what the champ is actually good at. It makes it even worse that they are (In Akalis case) somewhat succeeding and in Fiora's/Yi's Case doing incredibly well.
Little Stick Man1 votesthat's because the meta has shifted to shit like graves, yi, and fiora. if you don't have at least 2k health and some decent armor, it doesn't matter how much damage you do because you'll just get deleted. this isn't an assassin meta, it's a bruiser meta. this isn't the first time it's happened, but it is the first time that assassins have even had the choice to get some items that offer good offense and defense and not completely fall off. before, assassins would just be a dead class of champions
HandheldBrandon1 votesI wouldn't even call this a bruiser meta.
This is basically just melee fighters masquerading as bruisers/juggernauts while putting out carry level damage.
IMO the issue is that Riot is adding alot of true damage to champions who have no business having true damage.
Little Stick Man1 votestrue damage isn't a bad idea but its pure fucking cancer when you can apply it very quickly like fiora and yi
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It's overrated for what my opinion is worth. I tried it and you just do practically nothing in lane against anything but the weakest laners and even with 3 items you run out of energy really fast and don't do much damage or even heal much because you have no gunblade. You're not even really tanky at all. There are better choices if you want to put out decent damage while being a tank.
I've been looking at these high elo players and it looks a lot mroe negative than positive. You're pretty much something annoying that they can ignore if they want to lol.
Kaokentake1 votesthis is not a "problem" or a "issue"
the fact is in league 5v5 teamfights, a melee building lots of damage will almost always be bad because hes putting his gold into damage items which cannot put out damage faster than 5 enemies can delete him with no tank items
in 5v5 teamfights, the enemy team puts their damage into a target, and if that target has tank items then those items are properly being worth their gold value
in 5v5 teamfights, if a melee has all damage items and goes and gets focused, all his damage items have much less gold value than simply a few tank items
in a EQUAL GOLD GAME, a melee champ with all his gold into damage items will always suck and die in a second in a teamfight
the only reason talon "assassinates" you is because he went 5-0 in lane and is ahead of the game
but if the game is EVEN GOLD even talon with all his gold in damage will be bad in that 5v5. the only way he can be kind of good is if he can direct all his damage items into your adc who also built all damage. but if the ADC got a deadmans 2nd item then talons items will be wasted
tank akali is HEALTHY
melee champions SHOULD be able to build tanky and be useful in 5v5 fights. it is good and balanced for the game
HandheldBrandon1 votesAre you saying Tanky fighter Fiora is healthy for the game right now?
I bet alot of people would disagree with that.
Akali is SO HOT1 votesWell Riot has nerfed her W so hard and made it so much harder to stick to her target that it's not surprising she's building tanky to actually survive fights lol