Instead of nerfing tp..

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Said it makes games too long. They don't like 35 to 45 minute games on average because it makes live games in LCS hard on the crowd. Say you have 45 minute games on average. After every game is a 15 minute break. Say the games are even so you get all 5 games. What is that, like 4 hours for one overall match? That's killer on the crowd. I've been there and seen it happen, and while it can be fun I understand that it does get tedious as I look at my phone asking when it's gonna be over because it started at like 7 or 8 and it's now 2 or 3 in the morning.

...And people still try to defend Riot and say the game isn't balanced around pro play.

So they went with quantity over quality? Whats the point in crowd watching 5 games if they didnt enjoy even 1 of them? Ive seen some LCS games that went really close to 1 hour. And towers had nothing to do with it.

That's why this game is going to hell. Everything revolves around LCS. Us, mortals who play the game for fun are destined to: -Play the game and be constantly frustrated -Quit the game and play something else Riot Games are on their money making spree from LCS and they won't stop it since that gives them insane profit.

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Said it makes games too long. They don't like 35 to 45 minute games on average because it makes live games in LCS hard on the crowd. Say you have 45 minute games on average. After every game is a 15 minute break. Say the games are even so you get all 5 games. What is that, like 4 hours for one overall match? That's killer on the crowd. I've been there and seen it happen, and while it can be fun I understand that it does get tedious as I look at my phone asking when it's gonna be over because it started at like 7 or 8 and it's now 2 or 3 in the morning.

Maybe if there's 30 minute downtimes including before the scheduled match time a game series could take 7 hours... if we run even at 45 minute average time that's adding up to 6.25 hours. Typically breaktime is 10-20 minutes when things are running smoothly, so more like 4.5-5.4 hours. And typically game length will vary and most series don't go to 5. If 5 different hour long games happen in a meta that has 35-40 average game length, those teams would make 5 different 50 minute games happen in a meta like the one we have (those games still happen). That easily stacks up to 4.2 hours without even including break times... and its a result of passive teams using passive tactics to avoid feeding in their ridiculous snowball metas. The more dangerous 1 death becomes, the more likely there are to be more teams that'll pick every passive option possible to extend the game for safety.

Korea converted to best of 3s anyway, every other region is playing best of 1s. Best of 5s is now becoming a whole day event for specific tourneys, and if you're buying a ticket to a series I think 4 hours is a reasonable expectation if that's literally your full day of games. Games of Football, Soccer, and Baseball go on for hours for a best of 1 and in League games have a much higher variance in time so it being sometimes shorter and sometimes longer makes sense. Hell, if I plan on doing a bunch of Ranked or sitting down for a game night like D&D or want to watch LCS 4 hours is a reasonable commitment. If they don't have that time why are they traveling to see a live showing and buying expensive tickets for a variable timeslot? The reasoning doesn't add up.

The crowd definitely enjoys the current gameplay as witnessed by 30k twitch viewers nowadays compared to 300-500k two seasons ago.

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Said it makes games too long. They don't like 35 to 45 minute games on average because it makes live games in LCS hard on the crowd. Say you have 45 minute games on average. After every game is a 15 minute break. Say the games are even so you get all 5 games. What is that, like 4 hours for one overall match? That's killer on the crowd. I've been there and seen it happen, and while it can be fun I understand that it does get tedious as I look at my phone asking when it's gonna be over because it started at like 7 or 8 and it's now 2 or 3 in the morning.

I wish they'd just have different patches for pro-play so we could enjoy the game.

There has been a low amount of views for pro play this season.

There was an exception though... Guess what that was?

It was the Jin Air vs SKT game that lasted around 94 minutes.

The viewer count just kept going up and up the longer the game lasted.

Why? Because nobody knew who was going to win and they wanted to witness the outcome.

Why would one want to go to a live event to watch a couple games when they know the game's outcome will be blatantly obvious by whichever side stomps the other during the 10-20 minute mark.

And if teams want to avoid the stomp, they have no action games for 40 minutes due to all the punishment causing risk and play making to not be worth it.

That sounds boring/unexciting to me.

Let's compare this to wrestling because I wrestled for 14 years and then coached a bit.

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Said it makes matches too long. They don't like 7 to 9 minute matches on average because it makes live matches in tournaments hard on the crowd. Say you have 8 minute matches on average. After every match is a 30 second break. Say the matches are even so you get all 150 matches. What is that, like 15 hours for one overall tournament? That's killer on the crowd. I've been there and seen it happen, and while it can be fun I understand that it does get tedious as I look at my phone asking when it's gonna be over because it started at like 8 or 9 AM and it's now 11 at night.

That sounds pretty absurd, doesn't it? Their changes recently would be the equivalent of changing tech fall (match ends due to point lead) from 15 to 10 and pins from shoulder blades flat on the mat for a full second to the instant they both touch. Nobody watches wrestling to see a pin in the first period every match. They watch to see someone win in a last second take down in overtime or to see the person who is losing by 13 points turn the match around and win with a pin after throwing their opponent.

Why does it make sense to balance around the LCS? That's like 0.001% of the playerbase, if that.

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Said it makes games too long. They don't like 35 to 45 minute games on average because it makes live games in LCS hard on the crowd. Say you have 45 minute games on average.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsqmU3v0hVA

probably sheer outrage from such news.

being the bearer of bad news is not a rewarding career

Sure, that wasn't why they started taking it, but at this point with all of the funneling strategies, that's why it's stayed. It's simply too risky to die in lane and not be able to teleport back to defend your tower when you have no jungle presence that can help to defend it, and losing it means losing vital early pressure and farming area for your hyper carry. Also, even with all of the non-funnel drafts, the constant kill lanes are impossible to survive against without the breather that tp offers, which means creating even faster games that are over by 10 minutes.

Mind explaining in this situation, what happened if ezreal takes tp and the opposing adc does not?

Because if your answer is that they lose a shit ton of tempo and first tower then I rest my case.

That being said, that is not why it's fairly popular to see 4-6 tp spells in solo que either.

What new changes do you propose for tanks being better than bruisers and bruiser being good in places other than top? Also, when thats fixed what would you do for the jungle?