I wish zoe would sit in the gutter with kalista and azir

Lunar ArcS·Sep 2, 2018·2 votes·1,509 views

It's just clear that the design is similar to them and keeping her in this stage isn't good for balance. Like her entire kit screams unhealthy.

She does everything syndra does but better and on a much shorter cd.

She can pick up summoner spells (This was like the biggest mistake in existence.) Gotta love that ignite lv 3 on top of another ignite and flash for 3 procs of w on you. Being called by her summoners only and not even getting hit by q or e is literally cancerous.

Her e is honestly something I could live with if her q wasn't going to hit me for well over half my hp with true damage. (Ceriously??) <-- kill me

14 Comments

Fízz v2Sep 2, 20183 votes

why is syndra much stronger than zoe rn tho? [poppy-wink]

Lunar ArcSSep 2, 20181 votes

Why is zoe picked more than syndra then :)

Fízz v2Sep 2, 20181 votes

zoe has like 0.5% more pick rate than syndra, because more people like or main zoe i guess?

Lunar ArcSSep 2, 20182 votes

It's like a whole 3 % difference. Meanwhile syndra just barely became playable froma recent buff.

NY64Sep 2, 20182 votes

It would make sense Zoe has a similar design to Kalista since they were made by the same person. That same person also made Yasuo, Zed, and Darius.

specter424Sep 2, 20181 votes

I don't know why there isn't more counterplay to the free summoner spells . I don't enjoy being harassed by 2 or 3 ignites. Every other champion that has free shit sitting around on the map can be stepped on to deny it. I don't know why its ok you literally can't stop zoe from picking up the free summoner.

LTK KoRoSep 2, 20181 votes

i wish Kalista and Azir would stay in gutter where they belong, since now they're a bit more than playable.

Lunar ArcSSep 2, 20182 votes

I'd be down to just gut every CT champion and let someone else rework them

AimléssSep 2, 20181 votes

What a circlejerk, factless post...

Lunar ArcSSep 2, 20181 votes

It's literally all fact bitch wtf

AimléssSep 2, 20181 votes

Well that was rude, so in return, I guess I'll destroy your argument. Her Q doesn't do true damage, it's her E, which you claim to like lol. She is nothing like Syndra at all. Syndra can fight you through minions just fine, Zoe can barely damage you if her E and Q are blocked my minions because of the nerf. Her passive and W damage was nerfed to the ground so she's not killing you without hitting skillshots unless you have like 10% hp now. What she gets that syndra doesn't have is range. She is more of a poke mage where Syndra is more of a control mage.

Just thought I'd educate you, so next time maybe I'll find a fact or two in your post :)

Lunar ArcSSep 2, 20181 votes

I started with her e sweetie but your dumbass can't read it apparently. But ah yes you "destroyed me"

Her e is honestly something I could live with if her q wasn't going to hit me for well over half my hp with true damage.

I was talking about burst wise but okk

She is nothing like Syndra at all. Syndra can fight you through minions just fine,

So I know you were "destroying me" and all that but they're both burst mages thank youuuuuu. Zoe can all in with e,q easy peasy. There's a reason she is getting played in pro play btw What she gets that syndra doesn't have is range. She is more of a poke mage where Syndra is more of a control mage.

When all of your arguments flopped. YIKES

Just thought I'd educate you, so next time maybe I'll find a fact or two in your post :)

AimléssSep 2, 20181 votes

Yeah not doing this and not reading this. Enjoy ur dead post im out.

PsyrixSep 3, 20181 votes

I didn’t know Zoe could set up a teamwide stun, or had as much Zone control as Syndra. Nor did I know that she’s able to use her abilities through units. Zoe’s teamfight potential is much lower than Syndra’s due to that. A good tank will do a good tank’s job: soak the damage. Zoe prefers skirmishes and picks. Something Syndra is also able to do.

... “there’s a reason she’s played in pro play”. Are you referring to Syndra? Or Zoe? Since Zoe’s release Syndra has seen more play in pro play than Zoe... Zoe was a priority ban in NA for some reason (her “unpredictable” nature) but was rarely ever considered ban worthy in EU and Elsewhere... most of her play was seen in EU and Syndra was played against her in some. Her relevancy was largely due to the W buffs that were then nerfed. Your argument only points to like.... what... 5? Patches ago... if not more (I’ll check after I send this cuz I’m typing without internet rn). If we’re talking about recently.... her winrate globally is terrible, her pickrate has started to decrease more, allowing for the true mains to balance the winrate out. But by no means is she revered as a better pick than Syndra across the board... the people that are able to consistently do well on her are the mains. Something that is standard for EVERY champion.

You act like Zoe using summoner spells is a given. You can dissuade her from popping the balloons (laning 101, threaten damage to an enemy when they try to go in for a last hit) you can dissuade her from picking up the shard (it’s a very small radius in which she has to be in... almost has to be literally on top of it) so Zone her away from it... failing that, stay away from her if the summoner she picked up is extremely offensive (ignite, exhaust or the hextechs) similarly to how you would with an Annie... she’s extremely vulnerable to all ins especially after she uses E. And deals less damage if you are closer to her. Her abilities can’t pass through units and all of them are extremely telegraphed (barring when she second casts Q and presses E at the same time... but at that point uve already seen the entire Q animation so u know **something ** is coming, just the Bubble CCis just another thing to take into account rather than just flat damage. Zoe is always within 800 units of the Q... so in a sense she does have less range than Syndra... Zoe being able to displace herself grants her the extra range (only 575).