If Thresh is broken, why is his win rate 48%?

LZkkKD0Giz·9/19/2015, 1:34:37 AM·1 votes·1,836 views

And don't tell me it's because a lot of people first-time him.

http://champion.gg/champion/thresh

85% of the people who have ever played Thresh have at least 15 games on experience with him. Only 4.69% have actually "first timed" him in Plat+ ranked.

60% of the people who had ever played Thresh have at least 50 games of experience with him. Despite this, he still has a sub-50 winrate. Anyone care to keep telling me he's broken? He may be consistent and reliable, two very respected traits in a champion, but to say he's overpowered is to straight up ignore the statistics.

10 Comments

Subject 59/19/2015, 1:45:05 AM3 votes

Don't start a post making limitations as for what reasoning people could use.

As far as my opinion, I could give a shit less about win rates unless if it is obviously obvious for a champion to have an extreme win rate. (Skarner 76% win rate.)

He isn't broken, he is just overloaded and is extremely bad design. If you say it is good design, that is like saying "Make a champion with everything in the game crambed into one thing, but make sure one thing in the game is not in that one kit." because that is literally what Thresh is.

Thresh has a 99% slow damaging ultimate that scales with his infinite scalings. Which can be hit multiple times. By the same person or by multiple. In an area of affect. His Q can disengage, engage, peel, pressure just by standing in place like blitz and used to jump walls and more. His e is displacement, a displacement, knock-up slow with a very short cooldown, also used to poke early game and gives all right damage after lanes. His lantern, THIS LANTERN could be literally, one champion as a whole. It does EVERYTHING! Engage, disengage. Shield because why not? Jump a wall for insane mobility, help less mobile champs become mobile. Escape certain death that even the most mobile champs couldn't escape. His kit does EVERYTHING and that is why I despise that TerribleT is getting praise for such a "GOOD KIT."

Oh yeah, by the way his W is AOE. :DDDDDD

Juicyman9/19/2015, 1:49:57 AM2 votes

The more people that play him, the higher the chance that 'bad' players will play him.

This is why champions like Ahri, Vayne and Jinx are easily targeted. They are played by the masses but still have high above average play win rates.

Yatsufuså9/19/2015, 1:45:51 AM1 votes

Because people need something to complain about.

Crossette9/19/2015, 1:46:21 AM1 votes

Winrate doesn't mean shit.

Argument over.

LadyRenly9/19/2015, 1:46:33 AM1 votes

probably because thresh sint really a carry. he can make and break games, but if his team falls off, notrhing he can really do.

but also people probably google "most op champ for X" and then blindly start spamming whatever fancy youtube video had an easily digestible looking thumbnail saying "X IS SO BROKEN"

Zedex9/19/2015, 1:57:01 AM1 votes

He's not broken, lol.

I'd rather see thresh every game then face rolling Sona.

ShadyWolfe9/19/2015, 2:25:11 AM1 votes

Thresh is a very hard character to play efficiently so many fail at him. He does everything a support needs but he does no single thing great so unless you know how to utilize his jack of all trades kit you will not do as good as using a simpler support who does fewer things but does them great.

I Came For You9/19/2015, 1:38:52 AM1 votes

Its cause people think Play Rate means OP

AtheosisX9/19/2015, 2:36:34 AM1 votes

Thresh isn't broken. He has a lot of outplay potential however which makes him popular with a lot of players. Honestly though I have never experienced anything with Thresh other than mild annoyance at his ability to sweep away an ally who got caught out. I just don't get how people think he's overpowered.

Yosuke Apperu9/19/2015, 1:43:40 AM1 votes

Statistics are only brought to light when it supports one's own opinion. There's a guy on the forums that just screen shots your rank if you try arguing with him and calls your opinion invalid(he's plat) . Yet when someone of higher rank argues with him suddenly rank doesn't matter. It's the same principle. Someone got whooped by a thresh hook and decided he's broken. These people personally favor blitz/morgana often times. But I'd rather fight thresh over these two champions any day.