Which junglers sell their jungle item at full build?

Theiki Kayle·May 14, 2016·1 votes·2,471 views

The only ones I've seen are Warrior junglers (Warrior for something better), Diana (Runic Echoes for Lich Bane/Nashor's) and Shyvana (Bloodrazor for Wit's End).

Anybody else?

17 Comments

TormentulaMay 14, 20163 votes

I don't see why people would sell their jungle items. All the smite buffs are vital to win games, be it green smite, which keeps vision on the map, blue smite, to easily pick off and catch people, and red smite, to easily outduel somebody in the late game, where they are pretty much evenly scaled with you otherwise. The true damage smite gives can be pretty helpful as well.

MunchCrunchLunchMay 14, 20162 votes

not many. i do sometimes. i mean you rarely get there but at a certain point why do i keep runic when i can get the superior ludens or something like that.?. 40 ap stronger passive and more movement speed. ofcourse unless am making use of the smite then i keep it

i never see anyone sells their jg item. tho runic echoes is the biggest candidate. warrior isn't really bad. I mean the best u can get is 15 more ad. not a big deal. tho runic i can get a better passive more ms and 40 ap

KaxiMay 14, 20162 votes

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i never see anyone sells their jg item. tho runic echoes is the biggest candidate. warrior isn't really bad. I mean the best u can get is 15 more ad. not a big deal. tho runic i can get a better passive more ms and 40 ap

The utility of the smite upgrade/warding capabilities far outweighs a couple of stats. I mean, if your team is just charging at the other ARAM-style, then it's beneficial, but otherwise...

MunchCrunchLunchMay 14, 20161 votes

well its usually aram currently at least in lower elo. hell most of the time in pro play its aram in mid lane for the most part but they are way more organized and do more things than us.

MLDzXnRRRMay 14, 20161 votes

Only Cinderhulk scales into lategame...

A Basic IslandMay 14, 20161 votes

Shouldn't everyone except possibly challenger smite junglers

FACE THE WlNDMay 14, 20161 votes

Kha'Zix

Elite4RunnerMay 14, 20161 votes

Actually, a better replacement for Runic Echoes is Luden's Echo. They have the same Echo Passive and Luden's deals 40 more base damage, gives 40 more AP and 3% more movement speed.

Of course they could always go for a different item, but this is a better upgrade.

KaxiMay 14, 20161 votes

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The only ones I've seen are Warrior junglers (Warrior for something better), Diana (Runic Echoes for Lich Bane/Nashor's) and Shyvana (Bloodrazor for Wit's End).

Anybody else?

I don't normally see warrior junglers sell their jungle items because of the smite modification (or even warding capabilities so they can take scanner reliably); the likewise situation is true for Diana and Shyvana since the jungle items tend to be competent in their own right with the added utility.

Theiki KayleMay 15, 20161 votes

I don't play Warrior junglers, so not sure there.

On Diana I sell Runic Echoes rather early, one reason is because I take blue smite and I don't wanna have to rely on the slow all-game long to land the Qs. So it's also skillshot practice. It's why I dislike blue smite in general, because I like being able to practice skillshots.

On Shyvana I actually keep Bloodrazor as long as I can, because it scales decently and I use red smite. At full build and a lot of spare gold (has only happened in one game so far) I can sell it for Wit's End, since it's a good item (MR/MR shred & on-hit). I guess I could sell it for Rageblade instead of Wit's End, I have to try it next time.

KaxiMay 15, 20161 votes

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I don't play Warrior junglers, so not sure there.

On Diana I sell Runic Echoes rather early, one reason is because I take blue smite and I don't wanna have to rely on the slow all-game long to land the Qs. So it's also skillshot practice. It's why I dislike blue smite in general, because I like being able to practice skillshots.

On Shyvana I actually keep Bloodrazor as long as I can, because it scales decently and I use red smite. At full build and a lot of spare gold (has only happened in one game so far) I can sell it for Wit's End, since it's a good item (MR/MR shred & on-hit). I guess I could sell it for Rageblade instead of Wit's End, I have to try it next time.

If you're selling it purely for practice...then I guess, but you're selling a mini Luden's Echo. Selling items, period, is generally a gold dump unless the stats cannot keep up with the sell price.

In regards to selling late-game after a full build, I find it questionable but not unreasonable to "upgrade". Utility is a wonderful thing.

LadyRenlyMay 14, 20161 votes

Master Yi, because he doesn't build a full jg item

BluePolarizerMay 14, 20161 votes

The only time I would sell jungle item is to buy red smite Cinderhulk item 1413 . Nothing else.

Raiku KawisaMay 15, 20161 votes

Bloodrazer effect is not that bad, especially later in the game when the enemies actually have HP.

Theiki KayleMay 15, 20161 votes

It's not that it's bad, I like Bloodrazor and try to keep it as long as possible. But the MR/MR shred on Wit's End is pretty good, especially if you're Shyvana and most of your damage is magic. I guess if they have a lot of tanks you can keep Bloodrazor to kill them more quickly, though not sure.

Raiku KawisaMay 15, 20161 votes

the best buff they can give Bloodrazer is to make it Magic Dmg