That moment when you see Lucian and Zed together in the next free rotation...

Theiki Kayle·May 30, 2016·78 votes·5,273 views

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85 Comments

StickyOctopiMay 30, 201610 votes

I ban lucian every game, and they ban zed 100% so it's no big deal

71883083DEL1May 31, 20162 votes

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I ban lucian every game, and they ban zed 100% so it's no big deal

i main lucian =(

StickyOctopiMay 31, 20161 votes

I mean, good strategy if you want to win.

It's just not fun playing the best champion when you auto win every trade and lane just by picking it.

Soldier of 4JhinMay 31, 20161 votes

Just because lucian is picked doesnt mean he automatically wins

StickyOctopiMay 31, 20161 votes

You win unless you're bad. It's impossible to lose lane phase unless you fuck up.

Dirk+Q aa=every trade automatically won. You can't lose trades, can't lose lane and then if you win lane winning the game is incredibly easy.

Biff ManlyMay 30, 20165 votes

Guess what game I'm not playing next week!

(the answer is sonic and the black knight, cuz why would I even play that, i mean c'mon)

Only Play DariusMay 30, 20164 votes

Supposedly Lucian is OP but I have yet to win a game with him

ZackeryssMay 30, 20169 votes

Not sure if troll, or just bad with luc?

Vistha KaiMay 30, 201633 votes

Perhaps both.

MisterShamelessMay 30, 201623 votes

AP Lucian mid?

Soldier of 4JhinMay 30, 201629 votes

Black magiks

DarkRitualMay 30, 201629 votes

Vayne I came as soon as I smelled it.

VesarixxMay 31, 20168 votes

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GetMariahCarriedMay 31, 20163 votes

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Perhaps both.

Missing meme >:(

MVDuneCatsMay 31, 20163 votes

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GetMariahCarriedMay 31, 20162 votes

Redemption accomplished.

Speaking of redemption, don't watch The Raid: Redemption as a means to unwind at the end of a long day. Trust me... it doesn't work...

Theiki KayleMay 30, 201617 votes

I can't play Lucian either but whenever there's one he always seems to get a double a few mins into the game, then he just dashes and pierces through your entire team and you can't do anything to him.

That happens every game, I'm seriously tired of seeing Lucian.

At least when Jinx was meta I didn't get so annoyed, mostly because Jinx is hilarious as a character, even when she's a fed enemy.

statelesskillerMay 30, 20164 votes

im by no means a adc main. but sometimes i play ezreal mid and bot because i like playing ez. i once got a one on one with a lucian who was about as fed as me. i had more cs then him but he had more kill participation.

he dashed . . . 3 times . . . in the span of 5 seconds HOW DO I LAND A SKILL SHOT ON THAT

Soldier of 4JhinMay 30, 20162 votes

Find that hard to beleive

WoonStruckMay 31, 20163 votes

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Find that hard to beleive

40% CDR (not uncommon) means 8.4 second E CD.

E -> lightslinger is 4 seconds of reduction, Q -> lightslinger -> E (since reduced by 4 more) -> lightslinger -> W -> lightslinger -> E -> lightslinger -> Q -> lightslinger -> E -> lightslinger.

If executed properly (not very difficult, tbh), takes ~5 seconds or less to pull off, and he gets not 3, but 4 dashes.

Oh, and it has a 640 + 1460% AD ratio late game

Without his ult.

Also, try to consider that Lucian is also a heavy lane bully. That he doesn't need significant attack speed. That he doesn't even need to itemize crit. A traditional ADC (Crit+AS+AD) won't even surpass his damage until 40 minutes into the game. Even then, its just barely.

#balanced

Z Rapid FireMay 30, 20161 votes

I'm with you on that.. If he's on my team he barely carries but when he's on the enemy team, he's fed af and I gotta shut his ass down all the time, and sometimes I cannot carry because of that. Feelsbadman item 3070

bill84May 30, 201612 votes

It's called Yasuo syndrome

General LeviMay 30, 201612 votes

Or Shaco Syndrome

AsudurgaMay 30, 20162 votes

Or Vayne Main Syndrome

Small TiddiesMay 30, 201611 votes

Lee Sindrome... oh wait..

It Hertz When IPMay 31, 20161 votes

What you did there

I see it.

Jayle27May 31, 20164 votes

LeeSin : I don't item 3073

Battlecast SonaMay 30, 20162 votes

that feel when you post this and don't have a lucian game in the past 5 months, I was going to see if you were doing the korean build which is what's actually strong now ( item 3142 item 3071 )

Only Play DariusMay 31, 20162 votes

I've been playing him and using that build. IDK why it says I haven't played in 5 months.

Icestar1186May 31, 20162 votes

Match history only shows ranked

kaltenashesMay 30, 20163 votes

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Theiki KayleMay 31, 20162 votes

Braum?

kaltenashesMay 31, 20161 votes

one player decided to go braum top, he fed our lucian so hard that around 25-30 min, when the rest of the team was already dead, lucian and our tank jungler got 3 aces on enemy team.... then the enemy surrendered

Theiki KayleMay 31, 20163 votes

The only way to play Braum is Runic Echoes, Guinsoo's and situational items after that. Limitless mana, limitless slows and stuns and movespeed over 9000.

kaltenashesMay 31, 20162 votes

a plan is only good as its execution

people that play supports in other lanes, sure it can sound great and they can win , but they start the game already losing and its really easier for the enemy to capitalize on their weakness.

(hell i somehow won a game as nami mid against nidalee, i thought i was support but turns out our annie was the support)

i went top as shen vs braum, sure braum's stun is annoying and i almost died to him, but after first back i got item 3052 and started to win trades, eventually i killed him and braum started to fall behind on cs

It Hertz When IPMay 31, 20161 votes

Ditto for Kindred. I've tried several times, I just never seem to be able to do very much with her.

Soldier of 4JhinMay 31, 20161 votes

Kindred one of the most powerful early game junglers she falls off hard late game

DatalessMay 30, 20162 votes

So Lucian has been my favorite ADC since his release, and while I'm glad that the changes he has received over the years have turned him into the high damage caster ADC I knew he always wanted to be, I will also admit he is incredibly overbearing and I am really sick of seeing him played every game. It's not healthy for the game, and it's not healthy for the champion. Lucian deserves to be good, but every other ADC deserves to be equally viable, sadly I don't think Riot will ever really hit the mark on that regard.

S-tier is sadly, a thing.

SpongebobIsLifeMay 31, 20161 votes

he was just as viable as every adc, its the new build that broke him.

DatalessMay 31, 20161 votes

When I say viable I mean on the competitive level, when was the last time you saw Miss Fortune in a professional match? (example)

rtbf22147970May 31, 20161 votes

Play ranked; problem solved.

ChaosThiefMay 31, 20162 votes

Or just normal draft.

Troll for TrumpMay 31, 20161 votes

Yeah, maybe the release 6.11 patch this week, and want to see the effect the changes have on both those champs.

Or they could get some more stats on them through people playing them in normals to help gauge power levels. Idk.

Morg is also free, so yeah.

Theiki KayleMay 31, 20162 votes

Morg is not permaban except when people wanna play Blitz or Leona. And the most somebody could rage at Morg is if she lands more snares than usual and is good with the African-American shield. Which ain't easy.

Troll for TrumpMay 31, 20161 votes

Bltz is popular as an antimage, so Morg can counter that(sorta). I feel like she could also be an antimage for some other champs too.

Theiki KayleMay 31, 20161 votes

Morgana is anti-everything. If you wanna engage on her you get snared and she walks away. If you're playing like a wuss she activates E and walks/flashes into you, R-Qing you into oblivion. Or she just sits back and fishes for a snare.

Basically you know that if the Morgana is any good you're not gonna have much fun.

Troll for TrumpJun 1, 20161 votes

I don't have problems with her as Talon :L ez kill.

Until she gets zhonyas, then that can be annoying.

Theiki KayleJun 1, 20161 votes

To be fair, Talon isn't known for his counterplay. You either shut him down hard early game or he becomes unstoppable at 6 (or 4, I've seen plenty of people underestimate Talon and get themselves killed when he reaches 4).

It's why I'm so scared of good Talon players.

Troll for TrumpJun 1, 20161 votes

Yeah but you have things like Zed where....

You try to shut him down early, but if he has half a brain, he won't die and can play safe against even the most powerful of lane bullies.

He most likely will kill you as soon as he gets his ult (much like lB).

Basically, all assassins are built on a "feast or famine" style. Making an assassin not like that makes it not an assassin. ( Ekko going tanky, which makes him still powerful even when behind). Talon is sorta a cookie-cutter for what an assassin should be.

Theiki KayleJun 1, 20161 votes

True. I only said that Talon has no counterplay if he's even and decides you die (and for some reason you're solo and not tanky). I agree though that Talon is one of the most balanced assassins in the feast or famine style. As much as I hate Rengar, he's pretty much like that as well. The only thing a Rengar can offer when behind is a snare.