The Karma buff just exemplifies her dependence on Mantra to be useful

OverpoweredSoap·10/11/2017, 4:28:05 PM·3 votes·386 views

Its not that I don't think she needs a buff or two, but it really just shows she's too dependent on Mantra to be useful to her team.

Mantra E (and Mantra Q if mid) is/are pretty much her entire kit at this point and they're not even allowed to be that powerful because of her passive.

Her Passive lets her get Mantra back up so often that her Mantras can't be that strong.

I'm not saying she's bad (or that Mantra E is bad either,maybe for overall Balance health but that's another topic) but she's just too reliant on Mantra to be useful, which has to happen because she gets it up so often otherwise her base abilities would be too good while also having mantra.

I do realize that she has a kind of mini rework (if I understood Meddler correctly) planned in early 2017, but this just pushes forward the main problem with Karma.

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IxtaliKing10/11/2017, 7:29:01 PM3 votes

I think the main problem with Karma is that her Mantras have little to no nuance to their uses. Its literally what you said, RE for support (but RQ in lane) and RQ for mid.

She's lost way too much depth and this passive buff highlights that. I hope when Riot power shifts her they consider doing the following:

  • Nerf the passive back to 2 seconds at all ranks. Scaling up 3 seconds was a bad idea to begin with, and the 4 seconds now doesn't encourage healthy gameplay. In fact that 3 second scaling was a big part of what made her become an unhealthy champion in the first place (see Tank Karma, and Shield bot sup Karma).

  • Increase ticks on W to .5s intervals. W should be a DoT and should have the most synergy with her passive since it's her least safe spell (risk = reward).

  • Swap RW bonus root back to bonus damage. The extra root is trash, has nothing to do with her identity and nothing to do with the rest of her kit - it's unnecessary.

  • Give back the shield bomb.

Bonus points for:

  • Making RQ ground targeted.

  • Allowing RW to heal an ally.

  • Bringing back the tether clothesline.

Ahris10/11/2017, 4:32:14 PM1 votes

Isnt every champ dependent on ultimate?