Wasn't one of RIOT's goals of S5 to promote build diversity?

PentaJump·1/19/2015, 3:30:48 PM·2 votes·819 views

I was really excited when I read about this. Personally, I have always loved when you can build a champion multiple ways in order to respond to different circumstances. It adds a component of intelligence and strategy to the game, and means that the rock-paper-scissors aspect of champion select holds less of an impact on the outcome of a game.

But what has RIOT done to promote build diversity so far? I can think of a couple examples: Sejuani: kit was slightly reworked in a manner that promoted building AP, but didn't prohibit building tanky. Evelyn: gets a bonus from building on-hit items. The siege trio of items was released (Banner of Command, Ohmwrecker, ZZZ'rot Portal) Righteous Glory was released

However, the items are only conceivable purchase on a couple champions, and are, for the most part, ignored, and therefore do not significantly impact build diversity. Out of these, Righteous Glory probably has probably held the biggest impact. Personally, I think that this is the right approach though. I'd really like to see it extended to other classes though. And if the item isn't being purchased by anyone, I think it's okay to buff it.

On the other hand, RIOT has also made changes to limit build diversity this season. Warwick: He was previously held one of the most diverse build paths. You could build for one-shotting, or build tank and have your utility with Okay damage, or even build AP if you were into that. But now, you have to jungle him, and you have to build him for one-shotting to be effective. Athenes:??? - At the end of last season, some champions purchased Athenes, and some purchased Morellonomicon. Now, you purchase morellonomicon. Or two. Something really needs to be done to differentiate these two items though. Otherwise, even if you have to think about which one to purchase, it's not significant build diversity since they're pretty much the same item. AP Trist: Unless the numbers on the PBE are changed, AP Trist is dead. I'm an AP Trist main, but I won't belabor this point since I know you all are glad she's dead.

DFG: This one bothers me the most. DFG promoted build diversity and play-style diversity. But, if you don't want your mobile-burst mages to become assassins, then fine. But can we replace the niche that DFG held at least? There used to be five pure-offense AP items that were a viable item to rush. Morellonomicon: Only good on champions who need the mana regen Akali's Gunblade: Only good on Akali. Kayle's Sword: Only rushed on Kayle, and occasionally Teemo. Lich Bane: Only rushed on Fizz, and only sometimes. DFG: Purchased on champions who don't want defensive stats but also don't fit into the previous categories.

If RIOT wants to delete it because they feel it's toxic, then okay. But it should at least be replaced by something to fill the gap. What are Kat's build options now? Sorc Boots Zhonyas Deathcap Void Staff Any high elo Kat main you will talk to absolutely hates building defensive stats on Kat besides Zhonyas, stating that if you are getting hit significantly then you played her wrong. But, personally, I think Rylais is okay on her. This belief is supported by winrate data as well. That brings us to 5 items. Potentially, you could fill up the last spot with Mejais. That isn't an item you're supposed to rely on though.

The point is, there isn't really 6 offensive items for Kat. And I'm sure there's some other champions I'm missing who are going to be at a loss for what to purchase as their final item, because -nothing fits the criteria they are interested in- One of the ramifications of this is that the first 5 items will have a 100% purchase rate on that champion.

So.. I guess.. TL;DR: There should be an item released to fill the offensive mana-less niche that DFG held, but can we be careful to not release an item that is so powerful on a champion that the champion gets nerfed in a manner that they can build nothing but that item (a la Warwick)

14 Comments

aaronconlin1/19/2015, 3:48:45 PM1 votes

I've seen people build item 3146, item 3023, and item 3151 as last items on Katarina. While I agree with your point, I disagree that item 3115 and item 3100 are only built on Kayle and Fizz

Bharhash1/19/2015, 3:50:34 PM1 votes

DFG doesn't promote build diversity. It promotes one-shotting. Almost every champ I've seen pick up DFG gets the same items (Deathcap, Zhonya's, Voidstaff), and the item adversely affects some champions balancing (Looking at LeBlanc and Veigar).

Does Riot need to release another Needlessly Large build path now that they're getting rid of DFG? Sure. Are they 'getting rid' of item diversity? Not at all.

SleepyLionCub1/19/2015, 3:51:46 PM1 votes

They did somewhat actually. They made Phantomdancer and Stattik shiv equal build paths, and they also made Frozen Mallet equal to Warmogs.

Erockandroll1/19/2015, 4:01:31 PM1 votes

This post is pretty long so I would like to chop it up and explore it a little bit.

On the other hand, RIOT has also made changes to limit build diversity this season. Warwick: He was previously held one of the most diverse build paths. You could build for one-shotting, or build tank and have your utility with Okay damage, or even build AP if you were into that. But now, you have to jungle him, and you have to build him for one-shotting to be effective.

The Problem with Multiple Build Options is that Riot is Inevitably forced to Balanced around the most Oppressive Build. Personally when I played Warwick. I built him as a Fighter Duelist. with the Intent that my Ultimate would be used mostly for engage. and Not up front Assassination. And yet People building BotRK and Skirmisher's saber kinda ruined the tank build because that is what Riot balanced around.

Ezreal may have a ADC build, a Blue Build, and an AP build, but Riot is really only able to balance the game around one of those builds.

Athenes:??? - At the end of last season, some champions purchased Athenes, and some purchased Morellonomicon. Now, you purchase morellonomicon. Or two.

I feel like this is a phase. Athene's is suppose to be the AP v AP item, in part of it's MR. If anything that should be bolstered. (since it's not being purchased for the mana regen.) What I really don't Understand is why you would Build Two Morello's. You will Over shoot your CDR cap, it may be a little much Mana, And the passive don't stack. And you use two item slots to solve one problem.

If I play support I tend to get Morello's, but I don't stack them, I combined them with Either Talisman or Censer to get the regen and CDR I need but with way more Utility.

Kayle's Sword: Only rushed on Kayle, and occasionally Teemo.

I believe the word you're looking for is Nashor's tooth.

The point is, there isn't really 6 offensive items for Kat.

I'm going to be honest. Even with Assassins and ADC's, I would Build At least one defensive item. Also, have you tried Haunting Guise?

Hasztalan21/19/2015, 5:55:40 PM1 votes

Dude they never really promoted item diversity. They keep taking items out isntead of providing new ones. THey keep nerfing the ones which are useful so we allways end up with the same 4 items in our inventory, and that's the case for 4 years now.

It's just a blatant lie what they cannot achive even in a lifetime span.

Centuros1/19/2015, 6:04:44 PM1 votes

Which sword is Kayle's? There are three or so that she gets good use out of (Wit's End, Nashor's Tooth, Guinsoo's Rageblade).

OperationDEEZ11/20/2015, 4:21:47 AM1 votes

This is why I love Viktor . With the WW nerfs I think he now has the most build diversity of any champ.

Stacona1/20/2015, 4:22:58 AM1 votes

Build diversity would mean actually making new items and more items, apart from taking them away