Does anyone else think that Jinx is a bit overtuned right now?

Over Innsmouth·Oct 18, 2016·25 votes·1,479 views

I mean, it's not even lategame where her powerspike hits. She's suddenly three-shotting you with nothing more than a Runaans and a BFSword, and that's if she's behind.

I play a couple of different Marksmen, and all of them just get outclassed by Jinx. She has more damage, more teamfight presence, more range, an undue amount of utility for someone with her aforementioned damage and range.

Am I alone on this or can we start putting Jinx on our ban lists?

34 Comments

VallalanOct 18, 20166 votes

she isn't 3 shotting anyone with those items let alone behind. quit exaggerating.

Jinx and Vayne are creeping the power curve right now where hyper carries are strong enough early to get to their mid and late game spikes.

which is simply put an intended weakness they are lacking. Jinx moreso than Vayne. Vayne's lane is still garbo, but Jinx right now due to nerfs to most lane bullies she is able to survive lane and get to her item break points.

AgentBlackOct 18, 20166 votes

She's suddenly three-shotting you with nothing more than a Runaans and a BFSword, and that's if she's behind.

She could crit all 3 times and it still wouldn't one-shot an ADC. Especially not if she's behind, and doubtfully even if they're behind.

Lose lane as Jinx and then tell me she has utility. That 30-70% 2-second skillshot slow and 1.5s root on a massive cooldown will not keep you relevant until you finally come online, which takes about 60% crit in a normal build path.

I could go on about her strengths and weaknesses relative to several ADCs, but Meddler has already posted multiple times about Jinx's power in solo queue, and of other such Champions who are allowed to have above-average win rates because they excel against unorganized teams.

GrReaper96Oct 18, 20162 votes

Not to mention 0 escape unless she gets a kill/assist

DarkRitualOct 18, 20165 votes

She's not really overtuned. Some of her strongest lane opponents got nerfed, which is why she became a top tier and more common pick.

GelmousOct 18, 20164 votes

NEH she is hella easy to deal with in fact she one of my favorite ad carries to lane against, i have absolutely zero clues why everyone finds her difficult to lane against, she will 3 shot you if you feed her just like any other adc

3tysonOct 18, 20162 votes

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NEH she is hella easy to deal with in fact she one of my favorite ad carries to lane against, i have absolutely zero clues why everyone finds her difficult to lane against, she will 3 shot you if you feed her just any other adc

i agree she aint that hard to lane against her teamfighting just seems a bit promblematic where she has to get 1kil in order to kil everyone and from there on shes to fed to ever face again

ThatHaleStateOct 18, 20164 votes

Shes been the same for months, all she got was a .2 ad ratio buff on her ult. Means that her autos and Q dmg has been the same for months. This is just the process that happens. Ashe gets 3 nerfs, sivir gets nerfs, jhin gets nerfs, something else is bound to take over. Caitlyn is still oppressive as ever, and jinx does the dps, just how it goes currently

Malicious MetalOct 18, 20162 votes

Eh, I got other things to ban

Over InnsmouthOct 18, 20161 votes

You're exempt. Who else would ban Aatrox if not for you.

GULAG 4 UOct 18, 20161 votes

Ban it because I main it

Kappa I don't main aatrox since months ago

General TherittOct 18, 20162 votes

Its more or less because currently the champions that are really powerful are just far more prominent than Jinx, and she is indeed a lategame carry which itemization creates a complete monstrosity. But then you look at the mages and you see why. Varus can delete you at an equally far range and doesn't even need a runaan's thanks to his ability to be AP and AD. Cassiopeia has the same effects with Jinx and she has good CC and devastating burst. Corki cannot be properly itemized against and is rising in popularity. Jhin because you outrange Jinx and if you go full crit late game you'll end up deleting any carry in your vicinity.

GULAG 4 UOct 18, 20162 votes

Legit just got nerfed

Over InnsmouthOct 18, 20165 votes

That love tap to her most insignificant skill? Sure.

GULAG 4 UOct 18, 20163 votes

They nerfed the chompers, idk what do you mean by love tap.

5000000000000000Oct 18, 20165 votes

They nerfed the damage to the chompers, not trap duration, snare duration, or CD, which are the things that really matter. I guess it's a huge nerf to AP Jinx, if anyone ever plays that.

Ruin LanceOct 18, 20161 votes

its sarcasm buddy

Fondling GemsOct 18, 20164 votes

They also did a number on the mana cost of it, which was the point, because it severely limits how much she can use rockets while keeping kill pressure. I agree she needs another touch but it was a pretty good nerf all things considered. Also, yes, I do play AP jinx. Now that I can't AP cait I have nothing else left.

TheHappyReaperzOct 18, 20163 votes

Its actually more a nerf for her rockets. Now Jinx has to use them less, in order to keep the mana up to use her chompers in fights

Wolfram OxfordOct 18, 20162 votes

I personally do see a few marksmen that stand out as strong, but they aren't my concern until Riot decides to fix AP mages or these juggernauts/bruisers.

A few examples of flawed designs; Leblanc Cassiopeia Viktor Garen Darius Nautilus Volibear

Over InnsmouthOct 18, 20161 votes

Brand and Viktor are fine imo. It's their Rylais abuse that's making them so unbearable. Don't see an issue with Garen, Nautilus, Vi, or Volibear either.

There are a lot worse.

XevestOct 18, 20161 votes

Darius rework is one of their best designs tho.

It realx hit the mark.

Big LincolnOct 18, 20161 votes

there is nothing wrong with darius

Handy Sandy Oct 18, 20161 votes

ikr

The Yetii RiderOct 18, 20161 votes

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/BiL98QHi-this-is-a-disgusting-excuse-for-an-olaf-riot-jinx-pbe-changes?show=flat&comment=00070005

It is Riot's official position that Jinx is balanced when she is winning more 50% of her games.

This is our fault, not Riot's. Jinx functions very well in the disorganized "play what you're good at and don't build a team or coherent strategy in champ select" meta of solo queue. She is extremely good at sieging and also has a high destructive power against turrets even before she has bought items.

Ruin LanceOct 18, 20161 votes

yeah she is definitely overpowered right now. haven't seen a game where she hasn't gotten fed early on, whether she loses lane or not.

gonna keep banning her until riot decides that they've gotten enough skin sales and finally nerfs her :^)

Blumpkin NationOct 18, 20161 votes

It's because she STILL isn't punished for using her rocket launcher 80% of the time. It needs a set attack speed and not just a reduction.

MunchCrunchLunchOct 18, 20161 votes

i ban her frequently. she can be 0/5. and then she gets a passive stack and gets a quadrakill.

CerealBoxOfDoomOct 18, 20161 votes

its because it isn't lategame shes doing this not despite it

Only Play DariusOct 18, 20161 votes

She is, but people would rather complain about Yasuo

The DeckownerOct 18, 20161 votes

fevor of battle need to be removed

GhaelWindsOct 18, 20161 votes

Nah jinx is in a pretty balanced spot right now, she is a bit on the better side but overall she isn't too good and not too bad. She hits key powerspikes that makes her way stronger than any adc for that level early on, but other than that she relies on the lategame.

DracocrashOct 18, 20161 votes

aren't you early

SpoofghoulOct 18, 20161 votes

Yes and no

Every adc is hitting their powerspikes way too early compared to what they can bring to the table come lategame Jinx isn't really an exception.

I actually don't mind Jinx too much at least you can get to her and take her down unlike some other adc;s who have too much mobility and keep dashing around or hide behind a wall of traps or simply go stealth whilst dashing, or attack you from 3 screens away then crit and run around at 900 movespeed.

LordGeovanniOct 18, 20161 votes

i think that the items that ranged characters have acess to while they are just ranged make ranged characters over tuned. namely haveing in kit cc and or mobility while haveing free mobility on core items with no conditions needing to be met.