@Riot Taric Rework

Sherogarth··40 votes·39,244 views

As we all know our beloved (bejeweled) support is getting a Sion level rework.

When Sion was getting his rework he transformed into almost entirely new champion:

  • new lore,
  • new model,
  • VO,
  • skills... Thats because his old version was not matching his archetype as an undead death machine. He was just this herpy derpy, not so living, Arnoldy thing. But Riot not only created almost new champion but also keept the most iconic parts of his former self:
  • his axe,
  • W shield,
  • hp stacking,
  • lifesteal berserker mode via passive. All this combined together to what we often call "the best rework ever".

Now about Taric.Taric What bothers me the most is that, unlike Sion, his current version matches his paladin, knight, ge(m)omancer archetype quite well. Ofc his model is ugly (sorry Taric) and his lore sucks :D but all in all he is quite unique champion. He is the only fighter-support in game (imo he fits perfectly into juggernaut category - powerful, durable, immobile and melee). He grant his team powerful auras, can shred armor, keep one of last point-and-click cc in game, got double-edged heal. Also his character is one of the most unique - always calm, gentle, always by your side, but also in his voice you can hear some king of saddnes (his voice actor done great job). He is like an artist-knight-protector.

Here is a list of thing that I find core for Taric:

  • character (Sion's character changed completely in his rework),
  • hammer and shield,
  • bejeweled heavy, plate armor.
  • heal,
  • armor aura,
  • stun of some kind,
  • aoe boost for his team,
  • armor scalings,
  • lack of mobility,
  • fighter (not a tank) gamestyle,
  • solo top and jungle potential :D.

So here is my question, Riot: What from this list you gonna keep in his rework? Im not asking about his new kit, keep your secrets for yourself if you wish.

Thanks for reading. I hope someone will answer me :D. Love, peace and Gems everyone Taric .

140 Comments

RiotRiotRepertoir41 votes

What from this list you gonna keep in his rework?

I think most or all of it.

Wolfeur13 votes

Will he stay left-handed? It means a lot to me. *_*

RiotRiotRepertoir14 votes

Hadn't really thought about it, but I don't see why he couldn't.

Karjalanpaisti2 votes

As a fellow left-handed Taric main, I really hope they heard you!

Sherogarth4 votes

May the Gems bless you kind RiotRepertor for this answer :D.

But then there is another question. Why is his rework called a Sion level? Isnt it closer to Gankplanks in size then?

RiotRiotRepertoir8 votes

His gameplay probably isn't changing as much as Sion's did insofar as taking on a brand new role, but many of his abilities will be new or altered dramatically. However, art, sounds, lore, splash, etc. should all be new.

ModCaptainMårvelous7 votes

CAN HE STILL JUNGLE?

REPERTOIRE I NEED THIS.

I NEEEEEEEEEEEEED THIS.

Sherogarth3 votes

We all need this.

Yormaughm8 votes

I had a Taric jungle once, I was kind of skeptical but I'd heard it was a real thing so I was like "we'll see how this goes."

By the middle of the game I thought Jesus had come back.

RiotRiotRepertoir17 votes

This shouldn't come as a surprise, but we're aiming for his primary role to be support.

However, I'm totally cool with supporting jungle/AP/top Taric if it isn't compromising his effectiveness as a support.

TheLastBaron885 votes

This makes me very happy. Top Lane Taric is a way of life.

Bârd9 votes

I remember season 3 item 3004 item 3025 item 3047 item 3110 item 3143 item 3065 Never forget

Count Buffon3 votes

Yeah, the passive was OP on beta, then they nerfed it to the ground, and then they threw up their hands and said, "It can't be done!"

I'm a bit rusty on my math, but I think for every positive number X, there are numbers between X and 2X. In the literature, they're called "medium-sized numbers".

NightstalkerX77 votes

Will he remain, Outrageous ? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

RiotRiotRepertoir24 votes

Truly

sp4414 votes

Quick question, feel free to not answer, but seriousness-wise, how serious is he going to be? Is he going to go all-goof like most fanart of him suggests, is he going to become some gem-version of Garen, or is he going to strike out a balance?

Because honestly, it feels like League's champions are getting a bit too serious lately, with Gangplank and Sion losing almost all of their goofiness, and even somewhat goofy champions having really dark edges to them (Tahm Kench being basically Satan, Bard leaving entire villages to die a hideous death because he doesn't care about the lives of humans, Ekko failing to save his friend after hours of attempting to do it. I think the only champions that we got lately that aren't dead serious were Gnar and Braum.)

RiotRiotRepertoir10 votes

We don't want Taric to be too serious, at least not in the same way someone like Garen would be. We do envision him as somewhat of a handsome outcast weirdo, which I guess he is already currently in many ways.

Count Buffon2 votes

Needs moar Oscar Wilde.

ChopShuey2 votes

Is Dennis Collins Johnson going to stay as his voice actor? He got replaced on both Heimerdinger and Gankplank, and while both Voice Updates have their merits I miss that feeling he brought to his champions. I feel like Taric is who he is because his VA nailed it.

A minor think I like about Taric is his calm, yet cruel dialogue. The line "You are nothing more the glass, waiting to be smashed" sounds impressive (to me) because his voice makes it sound calming/relaxing, despite it being a death threat. Sort of a Tranquil Fury kind of thing. Any plans on keeping this kind of feeling on Taric?

It might contradict what i said earlier but I also see Taric as a rather serious protector (albeit a very corny one), the kind of guy who is friends with all, but destroys those who would ruin the lives of others. Then when all is said and done, sheds some item 3070 MANLY TEARSitem 3070 afterwards.

Can you expand a bit more on the direction you guys would like to take him, personality wise?

Rudewolf2 votes

About the Art/theme! (Manly seriousness)Taric

Do you guys take inspiration from others, more "Bizarre"sources? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Because I can see a JOJO-esque theme as the perfect fit for his VU.

(PS:JOJO = Jojo's bizarre adventure)

Bârd4 votes

Will he get a charm? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Knight SoIaire 7 votes

will he be like tahm kench ?

i find tahm to be one of the best designed supports ever

and by support i mean the support champion type ... not the support who goes with adc botlane

the thing that is soo good about tahm is that he doesnt feel crippled unlike other supports ... he is a full fledged support and a full fledged champion

while other supports feel like they have power cut away from them just because they babysit the ad carry

if you remake taric ... make him an actual champion

also befoire hate will come ... i know that people can enjoy supports ... i can enjoy them too (bard and braum are my fawourites) ... but both me and many other players just feel frustrated when they get left optionless just because their champion has a support tag atached to them and they arent allowed to be strong even if other champion overshadow their utility

RiotRiotRepertoir11 votes

He shouldn't feel useless/defenseless when fighting someone on his own, but I don't think he'll necessarily dish out a ton of damage in those situations either.

sp4414 votes

Oh, I got an idea for his passive!

Passive - Gems are Truly Outrageous

When an ally next to Taric dies, his armor explodes, revealing his buff manly chest as he goes Super Gemknight. Basic attacks deal 750 True Damage on contact and explode on a + shape.

P0W3RK1D1 votes

this passive actualy goes with a YOUTUBE FANIMATION. the video is Taric and Ezreal VS Ashe and Thresh .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGy5ZJ8cSUE

SPOILER ALERT: EZREAL IS KILLED and Taric Goes HAM with his ult and reks both of them. it would be cool to see a taric ult transformation like that.

i have an idea for a skillset for the rework :D

PASSIVE: SAPPHIRE COMPASSION for each ally near taric he will gain increased health, armor and regeneration and healing power, his basic attacks will also slow enemys , this buff is increased by (X) ammount the more allys are near him.

Q ABILITY: EMERALD TOUCH taric heals a target ally and himself for (X) ammount. if an ally is near to the target ally they will be healed for -5% less. this can chain up to 5 allys depending on skill lv ( the higher this skills lv is the more the heal the the more players the heal can chain to)

W ABILITY: DIAMOND FRAGMENTS taric fires a diamond shard to a target location. if the fragment hits an enemy it will damage them and collect some of their armor before dropping to the ground. when this fragment is on the ground it can be picked up by an ally, the ally will gain bonus armor PLUS the armor that was stolen from the enemy (the more armor the enemy has the bigger the buff is going to be) taric can also throw this fragment straight at the ground or an ally to just give them a small ammount of armor/resistance.

E ABILITY: SUNSHINE RUBY taric hold up his ruby gem shield for a few seconds. enemys that strike the shield are instantly stunned, and this stun can chain up to an enemy nearby that enemy. (chain number incresed as compared to lv) the higher the level skill the more chains can happen.

ULT: GEMSTONE VENGEANCE! taric shatters all of his armor, for the next 7 seconds taric gains increased speed, attack damage, and health. this buff is increased for each ally that is dead. ALSO, while in this mode allys near taric gain increased health regeneration and armor (the armor he just broke off of himself) , tarics basic attacks will also explode, rupturing the round around a target.

Linna Excel1 votes

He shouldn't feel useless/defenseless when fighting someone on his own

Are there any champs that should feel useless or defenseless if 1v1ing?

RiotRiotRepertoir7 votes

Unfortunately, I think some supports tread that line for some players.

Ultîma4 votes

Useless and defenseless?

Alistar Braum Annie Leona

Edit: Because people didn't understand that I was listing a plethora of supports who are not - as Repertoire suggested - useless and defenseless as per the supposed mantra of supports. These guys are awesome on their own and can cc someone to death, peel, and take a massive beating before going down. I feel that Taric should be like these guys, and a brick-wall of a bot-laner.

Not Katarina5 votes

Janna Let me AA you to death. : ^) PROBABLY more along the lines of Janna for fitting that category; she can peel extremely well, but she can't solo kill your adc [save for dives I guess]. Imagine if she could..

Linna Excel2 votes

Well it is hard to defend yourself with a banana Soraka when someone is coming at you with a gun Jinx.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bCyIAsSid8

SexySoapTurtle1 votes

{quoted}

He shouldn't feel useless/defenseless when fighting someone on his own, but I don't think he'll necessarily dish out a ton of damage in those situations either.

Can you please make his stun useful. A point and click stun doesn't feel very fun or rewarding.

JedenVojak3 votes

What? A point and click stun is the greatest ability in the game - it's incredibly useful.

SexySoapTurtle2 votes

{quoted}

What? A point and click stun is the greatest ability in the game - it's incredibly useful.

I'm kind of sensing you don't like any skillful champions.

Not Katarina2 votes

In League of Mobility, sometimes point and click CC's are a necessarily evil. Skill is not measured by how many skillshots your champion has, lol.

Crossette2 votes

Ezreal IT'S ALL SKILL

Puri Puri Taric2 votes

{quoted}

I think most or all of it.

just tell me if he gets a new passive because all passives he had besides his 7.5% mana on hit where terribly nerfed. and i liked getting free mana but it was at a time when heart of gold still existed... i crie so long ago and he still looks soo terrible gee gee.

RiotRiotRepertoir6 votes

Not revealing any gameplay mechanics yet, sorry :(

TehDanimal11 votes

Get rid of his invulnerability, I think most of the community is tired of champs with invulnerabilities. Heck you got rid of Poppy's and now she is a much better champion. But other than that Taric is awesome

CupcakeTrap8 votes

{quoted}

Also his character is one of the most unique - always calm, gentle, always by your side, but also in his voice you can hear some king of saddnes (his voice actor done great job). He is like an artist-knight-protector.

I just wanted to note my agreement here. "Magic has ruined this land." is one of his best quotes. It may not make sense in the post-Retcon universe, which may or may not have ever had Rune Wars, but I do really like that quote. I think Taric is very distinctive as a mature, measured, somewhat somber (but not broody/angsty/emo) character, in a sea of "I am a maladjusted 20-year-old with a DEATHBLADE and a thirst for VENGEANCE and my eyes glow purple!" characters. If you'll pardon the pun, Taric is very grounded. And he's not pumped to the gills with testosterone, steroids, and murderjuice the way some Champions are.

DDasani3 votes

I have to agree with you, I love Taric even now but I find him kind of underwhelming sometimes. I mean you have two possible build paths to go with him, pure "healie" support, or tank. I feel that he would be better as a healie support but that's just me. I got him almost a year ago and he's my favorite support to play just because he's easy to learn and he's fairly well-rounded. Taric Gotta love him

Skias3 votes

You forgot his Cape. I demand his Cape.

SteelStallion2 votes

Honestly, he just needs a visual change and some minor changes here and there. Maybe a few number tweaks. His contribution is often invisible because the biggest thing he brings to a team is all his aura buffs, and I think for that reason he is often dismissed as less useful than other supports with more active contributions.

I think his W's active could stand to be a little more useful, though. And maybe more of a SHATTERING effect. Visually and audibly, I mean. Right now it's more like a soft twinkle than a shatter.

Caytheles2 votes

You basically Just said that he is fine how he is now. I feel like Riot can come up with some new and more Beautiful MEchanics for the Gem Knight. Also i like his Lore. He is still a mystery so i would just love if they would talk more about his Homeworld. and if Riot released more Gem Champions after the Rework

Pearl Millet2 votes

Taric needs a visual and lore update more than anything. Most players don't think there is necessarily anything wrong with him . . . . just needs some love in the makeup department. I HATE THE VOICE ACTOR and the lines they have for him. They need something more rugged or interesting. His voice acting and lines are as boring as a Nicolas Cage movie.

http://i.imgur.com/t2Ak41B.gif

Rew7111 votes

When you say, only fighter-support I can't figure out if that means the **only ** fighter/support or he is only a fighter/support.

junglerboy163 votes

he means The only fighter/support.

Right now, Taric plays with a rhythm that actually matches someone like Lee sin (mix between spells and AAs) and is primarily focused on getting stuck-in in a fight and dishing out the hurt rather than just peeling allies or initiating. his damage is what scales hardest on him (odd though that may sound) and he is only tanky, not an actual tank (sort of like how Garen and Darius are super tanky but fighters because they primarily deal damage rather than focus on CC/utility).

DasMoonBat1 votes

Yeah, one of the things that makes Taric work for me is the mindgames that come from seeing him with a K/D score more befitting the toplaner and how people will actually avoid the ADC/support team rather than try to dive the backline. He does really well with Marksmen who don't need as much peel and have built-in escapes, since Taric really feels like he needs to be up front and getting stuck in.

junglerboy161 votes

Yeah, he works well with someone safe like Tristana, since he can leave her pretty much alone and go smack people.

DasMoonBat1 votes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYeYhBwqRXI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVWvAyhnHfI

I think the big thing Taric really needs is the VA and some number tweaks. His ult is really lackluster but you can set it off every 20-30 seconds if you get rolling with his passive. I'm currently putting together a video where I took Taric mid against a Fizz and was able to win lane and hold my own pretty effectively. Even with ADCs who would normally need some babysitting, Taric's Heal and Stun plus some good positioning can do wonders in a seemingly bad situation. I'm honestly terrified that my main and best character is gonna get gimmicked up for no real reason.

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