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Can we have tryndamere's ult only work on champion/minion damage?

dontspinbutwin··3 votes·1,187 views

Tryndamere is supposed to be an undying duelist. Fine, I get it. Some champions have to be oppressive, thats just the truth of it. However, there should always be a tradeoff for it. Like lets say I play Darius. The enemy can either risk fighting me to stay on top of CS, or they can hide behind turret, not die, but lose out on about 50 cs. However, after laning phase, this pressure usually ends. My point is, when oppressed, farming under turret is a viable strat to which even pros do.

So about tryndamere. Hes fundamentally broken in every way. Theres crit at level 1. But fine, as much as I hate RNG, he needs some form of oppression. However, if hes going to be oppressive, let me farm under turret. If I choose to be 30 cs behind, Why is it hes able to freely dive me while 2 levels ahead, then spin out while ulting?

Make it so tryndamere's ult only prevents your hp from falling below 1 hp if its champion damage or minion damage. Let turret shots go through the ult. There is no justification that Tryndamere mains can say against this.

I guarentee you, if fountain didn't go through tryndamere's ult, he would fountain dive 3 enemies at a time. Make turrets do the same.

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Summoner SpeII1 votes

tryndamere has alot of counterpicks, but when he gets ahead in lanes he wins he is supposed to be rewarded

counterpicks include tank malph, tank darius, jax

xDogMeatx1 votes

dont forget you ignite.

dontspinbutwin1 votes

Tank Darius honestly doesn't even do well against Trynd anymore: With lethal tempo and essence reaver rush, Darius really can't do much about tryndamere.

Trynd can legit just go Ap if he sees jax, and just E away every time jax decides to engage, effectively winning the trade.

Malph is an Ad counter, not just for trynd. Even then, the "counter" is that trynd cant force a fight on malph. Even when building full armor, malph can lose this trade.

Summoner SpeII1 votes

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Tank Darius honestly doesn't even do well against Trynd anymore: With lethal tempo and essence reaver rush, Darius really can't do much about tryndamere.

Trynd can legit just go Ap if he sees jax, and just E away every time jax decides to engage, effectively winning the trade.

Malph is an Ad counter, not just for trynd. Even then, the "counter" is that trynd cant force a fight on malph. Even when building full armor, malph can lose this trade.

nope, i play darius, and i played the tryndamere match up

i literally just face tank his autos while autoing back and i just shit on him, because my champion is better than his, and i rush full tank tabis, randuins and he does no damage to me, if he tries to ult while fighting me i slow him and use randuins and laugh while he does 0 dmg, i take flash ignite and corrupting pot and grasp and tonic biscuit 2nd rune on darius, and i just auto him to death, literally nothing he can do. if he fights me he is inting.

the jax vs trynd is a skill match up, but it is still in jax favor when equal skill level.

and if ur losing as malph to trynd, idk the malphite should uninstall. literally ur e removes him from the game, and u can troll him so hard with a instant cast ult that he cant react to, if you sit on top of him and ult directly ur ult has no time for him to react. tryndamere players will usually ban malphite, so pick full tank darius with ignite and grasp and tonic biscuit with corrupting start, and auto him to death, not hard game

Sona Ping1 votes

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Tryndamere is supposed to be an undying duelist. Fine, I get it. Some champions have to be oppressive, thats just the truth of it. However, there should always be a tradeoff for it. Like lets say I play Darius. The enemy can either risk fighting me to stay on top of CS, or they can hide behind turret, not die, but lose out on about 50 cs. However, after laning phase, this pressure usually ends. My point is, when oppressed, farming under turret is a viable strat to which even pros do.

So about tryndamere. Hes fundamentally broken in every way. Theres crit at level 1. But fine, as much as I hate RNG, he needs some form of oppression. However, if hes going to be oppressive, let me farm under turret. If I choose to be 30 cs behind, Why is it hes able to freely dive me while 2 levels ahead, then spin out while ulting?

Make it so tryndamere's ult only prevents your hp from falling below 1 hp if its champion damage or minion damage. Let turret shots go through the ult. There is no justification that Tryndamere mains can say against this.

I guarentee you, if fountain didn't go through tryndamere's ult, he would fountain dive 3 enemies at a time. Make turrets do the same.

Because other champions, like lets say I play Darius, I can also tower dive you on the champ you are playing. While you are under tower I can hit you, pull you out of tower, or dive you while having the ability to tank tower shots and can do all of these because of how my champion works in the game. Just the same as if I was on a different champion.

"However, if hes going to be oppressive, let me farm under turret ... My point is, when oppressed, farming under turret is a viable strat to which even pros do."

Pros also know that towers are not safe zone and there are times they cannot farm under tower. Champions have resistances and abilities that they can use which make tower diving someone an option. You're saying that should not be an option just for this one champ, even though tower diving is a viable strat.

dontspinbutwin2 votes

Darius can die in a turret dive. He can't tank a turret for 5 seconds while building full damage.

Sona Ping2 votes

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Darius can die in a turret dive.

So can Tryndamere.

"He can't tank a turret for 5 seconds while building full damage." Darius doesn't need to build full damage. Darius can use things other than that ult to tank while not suffering from its absence, while having his own benefits from his build and kit because he is a different champion. Other champions can also tower dive with their ability to tank, invalidate tower shots, reset tower aggro, and so on. But you are making an exception of them and everyone else to this idea of yours but Tryndamere.

Doge20201 votes

If you are bitching about trynd because he just shit on you in a recent game, maybe try play a champion with lots of CC and outplay potential. If you pick a champ with a bunch of CC, you can lock him down during his ult so he can’t take advantage of the undying effect and you can prevent him from running out of the tower during or after his ult and kill him.

I would recommend Galio, Malphite, Maokai, and Darius. Nautilus is also an option if you want but I think Galio, Malphite and darius are the best options because they are very tanky and they have enough damage to survive in lane.

The best way to fight Tryndamere during his ult is to CC him so he can’t get free damage during the ult duration.

dontspinbutwin1 votes

Look at my match history, Haven't played against him in like a month ( in a normal game anyways). There are other problematic issues of toxicity in the game, like Jax E, polymorph, Leblanc's W and E, but I think tryndamere's ult and crit are really big toxic factors that need to be addressed

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