Riot still thinks dynamic queue is what the playerbase wants.
Adcs dont matter at all and are only used for Utility .
Tanks die in seconds (Not because adcs, because mid laners and junglers).
Jhin is still busted as fuck.
Theres too much fuckin damage in the game now.
Riot still thinks Rylais is a fair item.
SwiftKitten883 votes
Riot still thinks dynamic queue is what the playerbase wants.
Adcs dont matter at all and are only used for Utility .
Tanks die in seconds (Not because adcs, because mid laners and junglers).
Theres too much fuckin damage in the game now.
agreed
4. Jhin is still busted as fuck.
idk he seems fine at my elo... but I'm not the best person to judge as i dont play adc
- Riot still thinks Rylais is a fair item.
it IS a fair item. on the MAJORITY on AP champs
there are maybe 3-5 outliers they become crazy strong with it
and a few others
but for MANY AP champs who DON'T have any form of CC (or a low amount)
is FINALLY worth buying
Rivuo1 votesagreed
idk he seems fine at my elo... but I'm not the best person to judge as i dont play adc
it IS a fair item. on the MAJORITY on AP champs there are maybe 3-5 outliers they become crazy strong with it
yeah i guess you're right. Tbh i still think its too cost efficient tho. 400 hp 100 AP and a slow is pretty crazy thats the problem
Arakadia2 votesJhins not that bad.
Critmaster Garen1 votes{quoted} Adcs dont matter at all and are only used for Utility .
but theyre still picked every game by every team for their utility.
its like saying supports dont matter because people only pick them for utility. mages dont matter because people only pick them for utility. tanks dont matter because people only pick them for utility.
if adc utility is enough to keep them relevant that every team has to pick them, then that means theyre really strong for their utility.
Rivuo1 votes[{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IEz8KFLl,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-07-26T23:54:44.035+0000)
but theyre still picked every game by every team for their utility.
its like saying supports dont matter because people only pick them for utility. mages dont matter because people only pick them for utility. tanks dont matter because people only pick them for utility.
if adc utility is enough to keep them relevant that every team has to pick them, then that means theyre really strong for their utility.
Thats not what i mean bud. Ment adcs are just punching bags now. Supports solo them. Tanks 2 shot them. Thats why ashe is so popular right now. Because they arent worth shit
Critmaster Garen1 votesThats not what i mean bud. Ment adcs are just punching bags now. Supports solo them. Tanks 2 shot them. Thats why ashe is so popular right now. Because they arent worth shit
except that isnt true at all. early game maybe.
but lategame there are a couple of adc who can just facetank fighters like olaf or tanks with lifesteal.
either way, for the ridiculous champion damage they bring, they better be team reliant to survive. and ashe is strong because of overall buffs and shes actually a strong duelling adc with her q available.
Rivuo1 votes[{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IEz8KFLl,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2016-07-27T00:35:26.814+0000)
except that isnt true at all. early game maybe.
but lategame there are a couple of adc who can just facetank fighters like olaf or tanks with lifesteal.
either way, for the ridiculous champion damage they bring, they better be team reliant to survive. and ashe is strong because of overall buffs and shes actually a strong duelling adc with her q available.
Exactly. And how many games actually get to late game. Because from what ive seen in every lcs game 9/10 last up until 30 minutes.
My last 100 games we went to 40 minutes maybe 5 times.
Games dont last to ''lategame'' anymore. Ashe isnt strong because of ''overall buffs'' she didnt even fuckin get buffed. She was never even touched yet she came popular because people saw the Ashe ult and E utility she has.
Critmaster Garen1 votesExactly. And how many games actually get to late game. Because from what ive seen in every lcs game 9/10 last up until 30 minutes.
My last 100 games we went to 40 minutes maybe 5 times.
Games dont last to ''lategame'' anymore. Ashe isnt strong because of ''overall buffs'' she didnt even fuckin get buffed. She was never even touched yet she came popular because people saw the Ashe ult and E utility she has.
her q was buffed like 2 or 3 patches in a row.
they reduced the amount of stacks it takes to activate, allowed her to use her q on turrets again, and they made the stacks drop off one by one instead of all at once, which makes it easier to keep them up and look for opportunities for trades.
the swifties nerfs were also an indirect buff to her considering that her entire playstile revolves around slows.
ashes current strength doesnt just come out of thin air and nerfs to other adc. she was buffed directly and indirectly. and she actually had a strong winrate going for her for a long time, even before her most recent buff.
i remember people were complaining about ashe being weak when she was sporting a 53% winrate and was a counter to most of the top picks at the time, including lucian.
Rivuo1 votes[{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IEz8KFLl,comment-id=00020000000000000000,timestamp=2016-07-27T01:16:10.537+0000)
her q was buffed like 2 or 3 patches in a row.
they reduced the amount of stacks it takes to activate, allowed her to use her q on turrets again, and they made the stacks drop off one by one instead of all at once, which makes it easier to keep them up and look for opportunities for trades.
Dude. She was buffed long time ago. Ashe just became super meta a few weeks ago.
Critmaster Garen1 votesDude. She was buffed long time ago. Ashe just became super meta a few weeks ago.
and shes been strong since then. swifties nerfs played a big role. remember a while back almost everyone bought swifties. at that time ashe was already strong.
Rivuo1 votes[{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IEz8KFLl,comment-id=0002000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-07-27T01:22:24.538+0000)
and shes been strong since then. swifties nerfs played a big role. remember a while back almost everyone bought swifties. at that time ashe was already strong.
Never bought swifties on ashe. Just like swifties on MF is a horrible choice.
Critmaster Garen1 votesNever bought swifties on ashe. Just like swifties on MF is a horrible choice.
no. against ashe wtf.
Calabok1 voteswhat a load of crap.
Vanjie1 votesOne word. Laziness.
VivaLaKitten1 votespeople who think Jhin is broken are the same people who think anyone who's fed is broken he's a late game adc who is bad at cs'ing he is very immobile he is very squishy
he's just like every other adc: tons of damage, no health
Rivuo1 votespeople who think Jhin is broken are the same people who think anyone who's fed is broken he's a late game adc who is bad at cs'ing he is very immobile he is very squishy
he's just like every other adc: tons of damage, no health
'' people who think Jhin is broken are the same people who think anyone whos fed is broken''
So then that would make Meddler ( member of riots balance team ), The 2 6.15 patch playtesters who commented yesterday saying They thought Jhin and lucian were top tier adcs, Me, The people who complain about jhin daily, The people that made jhin have a 20% bann rate.
Are all idiots but you're right? Ok.
VivaLaKitten1 voteshe has plenty of counterplay along with Lucian and Vayne, even though they're all powerhouses if fed
Rivuo1 voteshe has plenty of counterplay along with Lucian and Vayne, even though they're all powerhouses if fed
Nobody said he doesnt have counterplay
Everyone is a powerhouse if fed, Not just ''lucian and vayne''. Would you like to see my adc soraka game in which i got fed in?
What rank are you? Because jhin is widely used in plat+ and theres a big reason why hun
VivaLaKitten1 votesnot everyone is a powerhouse if fed, everyone can just be very powerful if fed certain champs will get power spikes if they're fed while others will just get stronger in what they already do I don't play ranked, since I only play to have fun in a video game
Rivuo1 votesnot everyone is a powerhouse if fed, everyone can just be very powerful if fed certain champs will get power spikes if they're fed while others will just get stronger in what they already do I don't play ranked, since I only play to have fun in a video game
Listen i dont really care but can we stick to the point?
You said jhin is fine, i think hes not fine. His 53% win rate accompanied by a 20% play rate is NOT fine. A lot of people high elo, Lcs players , lcs casters and Rioters on the balance team have said this and i completely agree because ive BEEN saying that jhins not fine.
You think hes fine? ok whatever. A lot of people dont and his stats show it.
VivaLaKitten1 votesoh wow, a whole 3% above average also, people play Jhin because he's . . .fun his kit screams fun, while someone like say Kog'Maw's is you just right click and spamming a lot of aa, Jhin has more interaction with his snare, traps, ultimate, and even bouncing grenades
