So Riot, Can We Admit the Syndra Nerfs Were Heavy Handed?

Starlighte·2/12/2015, 6:15:44 AM·35 votes·26,562 views

Syndra's Q base, hitbox on her E, and DFG being removed (though Riot believed this to be a non-factor for Syndra.) have all contributed to Syndra's winrate being amongst the lowest in the game.

Can we admit she was over-nerfed and roll back some of this? I don't know who thought DFG being removed didn't impact Syndra that much but... As far as I am concerned it was just as essential of an item on her as DFG was on Veigar.

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RiotMeddler2/12/2015, 7:40:15 AM37 votes

Agreed, she was hit harder than intended in a way that's left her E feeling like it sometimes misses when it's expected to hit. We're increasing the width on Syndra's stun in 5.4 (and to a greater extent than it was increased in 5.2). It's not going to be as wide as pre 5.1, which was unfairly wide, but should more consistently hit when it looks like it did.

After that change, which is both a feel and a power one, we'll look at where her balance stands, see if it's appropriate to do more.

xl Kirito lx2/12/2015, 6:01:21 PM7 votes

Without DFG, Syndra actually has to set up her ultimate in advance. She can't just DFG + R with 3 balls on the field, and still get a kill. As it stands, minor buffs to ball duration would be nice, but straight up buffs to her kit seems like a bad idea.

chumbler2/12/2015, 7:32:43 AM3 votes

Riot won't admit that the Cassiopeia rework was a massive fucking failure at everything it was supposed to do, which is a unanimous opinion among people who do not work for or suck up to Riot, so good luck on Syndra.

lightdragoon882/12/2015, 6:23:09 AM2 votes

Nah this just means that she can get a new passive.

Like this:http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/kxZ6Nj2G-reworking-syndra-passive-thoughts-and-ideas-welcomed

And now away I go.

Lean into it2/12/2015, 9:30:00 AM2 votes

nah fuck that bish

Valktoria2/12/2015, 11:56:51 AM2 votes

Riot has access to the winratio of champions using DFG, how often it was used and how much more they won without DFG. Based on that information, DFG would be deemed non-core assuming it points to that being the case.

TenBlade2/12/2015, 7:20:58 AM1 votes

yeah i agree, i mean losing 75 range on all of your abilities is rather harsh (outside of ult). I mean who thought it was a good idea to do that to a champion?

Blainezy2/12/2015, 6:18:11 PM1 votes

I main Syndra and DFG is so unnecessary on her but it was a fun time. With all her AoE she should be built with more of a team aspect in mine.. Like Rylais and void staff. Her Q and E is way nerfed though. The E definitely needs to be fixed

Dengeden2/13/2015, 6:49:18 AM1 votes

And here we see the other side of "FKN nerf this champ! OMG!"