So when you Rework Morde

Mordepool·Dec 12, 2018·14 votes·6,886 views

Can you give us the Tools to deal with Marksmen.

Honestly Since they are Buffing Marksmen #AGAIN
I feel like i should stop playing Morde/the game. Since My enjoyment is non-existant when marksmen are strong.

Its Fucking Garbage enough as it is Being insulted For Playing my main Every other Game

But Im sick and fucking Tired of Marksmen beating in my face Telling me its balanced

When they get too

Out damage me from beyond my effective Range
run circles around me with much Greater Base Movement and Dashes
Have Better Base & Scaling Health
Easily Out Sustain me with Bloodthirster or Blade of the Ruined King
Have infinite Better CC

Like WTF do i get a Dragon with The AI of a Potato.

This is Bullshit.

Is this a Rant thread Yes Does it have a Fucking Point Yes it does.

When you Finish Randuins 3rd item and already have Ninja Tabi. You shouldnt FUCKING DIE TO VAYNE in less than 3 Seconds

##Do Better Riot

30 Comments

MrFawknSunshineDec 12, 20187 votes

give him a gap closer and move speed?

MordepoolDec 12, 20184 votes

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give him a gap closer and move speed?

You may be unaware but he does have a speed boost. Bear in mind it has 3 Major limiting factors which actually makes it negligible.

KnightOfEloHellDec 12, 20182 votes

I'm positive all they need to do is move the MS bonus from w to Q, keeping the 3 Q ststem:

5% increased Movespeed for 2 seconds for each Q landed.

Now Q is more reliable, and you dont need to hope minions or allies around positioned a certain type of way to use it.

MrFawknSunshineDec 12, 20181 votes

im aware my comment as most is made in jest. we dont need a hyper mobile mord with a base 355 ms and gap closers

MordepoolDec 12, 20182 votes

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im aware my comment as most is made in jest. we dont need a hyper mobile mord with a base 355 ms and gap closers

Id settle for 340 ms no gap closer but a 2 part Grounded effect

vgamedudeDec 12, 20184 votes

Honestly at this point I'm convinced nothing will ever change. They talked a big game about wanting more diversity and adding more diversity bot and they took a step in the right direction for one patch then reverted it the very next patch due to adcs crying.

There are simply too many developers, big streamers and pros who play adc that are not willing to have the game not always revolve around right clicking for any change to happen. It's sad but this game is doomed to meta and game stagnation.

The only way you could have morde be effective against them would be to give him insane mobility on the level of camille or something and even then you likely will not see him played bot with any regularity.

MordepoolDec 12, 20184 votes

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Honestly at this point I'm convinced nothing will ever change. They talked a big game about wanting more diversity and adding more diversity bot and they took a step in the right direction for one patch then reverted it the very next patch due to adcs crying.

Yup ill be honest i am very much in the Fuck marksmen and there players camp. Its Hard to shake a memory of a Game i played in S3 where an Enemy Vayne Dc'd at the Start of the Fight and Got a Pentakill.

There are simply too many developers, big streamers and pros who play adc that are not willing to have the game not always revolve around right clicking for any change to happen. It's sad but this game is doomed to meta and game stagnation.

Fuck there ego this games Balance is More important.

The only way you could have morde be effective against them would be to give him insane mobility on the level of camille or something and even then you likely will not see him played bot with any regularity.

vgamedudeDec 12, 20181 votes

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Yup ill be honest i am very much in the Fuck marksmen and there players camp. Its Hard to shake a memory of a Game i played in S3 where an Enemy Vayne Dc'd at the Start of the Fight and Got a Pentakill.

Fuck there ego this games Balance is More important.

Riot has shown they don't care. They listened to the adc whine after their last and only real attempt at adding diversity rather than caring about making the game balanced. Won't even be surprised at this point if something akin to an ardent meta resurfaces someday soon. More adc buffs and continuing to ignore their sole status as required pick.

Hell even nexus blitz is dominated and ruined by ADCs. They even top the damage during URF mode which should in theory favor everything but adcs. They are out of control and no one cares.

DracocrashDec 12, 20183 votes

He's a champion with no mobility and no CC. Most champions need at least 1 of those to function.

Forcing morde players to build rylies to be somewhat viable is shitty design and needs to be fixed.

MordepoolDec 12, 20182 votes

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He's a champion with no mobility and no CC. Most champions need at least 1 of those to function.

Forcing morde players to build rylies to be somewhat viable is shitty design and needs to be fixed.

Holy shit yeah same thing i said before the last Rework

KnightOfEloHellDec 12, 20183 votes

I always had hope they'd do good for him. But... his bugs keep adding up with each patch. Riot said they won't touch him or fix any bugs till his rework, but than he gets a GOOD bug that gives a full sheild from E, that still decays, mind you, but that was hit fixed THE VERY SAME DAY.

Meanwhile, I continue to miss 3rd Q when w pops, w still goes invisible if you use the protobelt active with w up, dragon and certain ghosts don't listen, I can make an enemy Poppys ult not work, and Darius passive ignores Mords sheild.

There is no love for Mord, and I'm so afraid he wont be the high damage, passive shielding, enemy champion ghost grabbing Morde I've come to love. I saw how he was changed with his first rework.. he was made into a different champion.

I personally like this kit better than the old one, but the bugs are getting WAY out of hand. Also he needs visual work, and more interesting quotes for each skin.

In other news, I wish Morde could actually move

BLIGHTBRINGERDec 12, 20183 votes

I'm down to give Morde whatever you want, if they get rid of this ultimate...

https://clips.twitch.tv/ScaryBitterAnacondaJKanStyle

D357R0Y3RDec 12, 20183 votes

Op raging to the point of increasing his adrenalin by 5 kg/L because of marksmen

meanwhile there are challenger morde mains that play him botlane in soloq without support premades

this is the time where you can enjoy this part of the boards

MordepoolDec 12, 20183 votes

[{quoted}](name=Darkin Hybrid,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=I8lhV9Q3,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2018-12-12T13:31:37.930+0000)

I'm down to give Morde whatever you want, if they get rid of this ultimate...

https://clips.twitch.tv/ScaryBitterAnacondaJKanStyle

A Cowardly Yasou running away after a Lost trade. And then aery kills him.

No offense but in League of infinite dashes Mordes Ultimate has become his only Reliable source of damage.

I doubt you actually care about the champions overall health.

BLIGHTBRINGERDec 12, 20181 votes

Look I want to don't defend the champion or the player who was playing that champion but look how is it a "lost trade" when a 7/2 Mordekaiser just presses a point-to-click R on someone to 100 to 0 someone lol?

notMineskiexoDec 12, 20182 votes

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Look I want to don't defend the champion or the player who was playing that champion but look how is it a "lost trade" when a 7/2 Mordekaiser just presses a point-to-click R on someone to 100 to 0 someone lol?

Yasuo lost the trade because he decided that item 3155 is not worth getting

MordepoolDec 12, 20183 votes

[{quoted}](name=Darkin Hybrid,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=I8lhV9Q3,comment-id=000600010000,timestamp=2018-12-12T16:15:04.343+0000)

Look I want to don't defend the champion or the player who was playing that champion but look how is it a "lost trade" when a 7/2 Mordekaiser just presses a point-to-click R on someone to 100 to 0 someone lol?

Yeah Fuck Morde right he shouldnt have any Reliable Damage in his Kit. No base stats, no CC, No mobility, No Gap closer. Just add Reliable damage to that list. /s

Liandrias is the Only Reason Mordes Ult does damage BTW. Lyandrais does More Damage than Mordes Max rank Ult by itself.

For those ignorant The list of counterplay available to the Yasou is as follows

Bear in Mind you have 10 seconds of Counterplay thats 9 more than Most champions will give

walk to gain flow, to gain shield
heal from pots
lifesteal off minions

Items that counter item 1033 reduces every tick of damage. item 3155 yeah ur not dead now item 3194 the DPS drop from this item is infuruating item 2419 Stasis completely negates a Portion of the damage

BLIGHTBRINGERDec 12, 20182 votes

I didn't say that he "shouldn't have any reliable damage", I was saying that his R in most cases has no actual counterplay due to it being a point-to-click ability. And if he needs to have a such ability in his kit, that shows that there's a problem with the kit if his ult is his only "reliable damage".

Liandrias is the Only Reason Mordes Ult does damage BTW. Lyandrais does More Damage than Mordes Max rank Ult by itself.

I know.

For those ignorant The list of counterplay available to the Yasou is as follows

Bear in Mind you have 10 seconds of Counterplay thats 9 more than Most champions will give

walk to gain flow, to gain shield
heal from pots
lifesteal off minions

Those are some valid points yes.

MordepoolDec 12, 20183 votes

[{quoted}](name=Darkin Hybrid,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=I8lhV9Q3,comment-id=00060001000000010000,timestamp=2018-12-12T18:37:42.250+0000)

I didn't say that he "shouldn't have any reliable damage", I was saying that his R in most cases has no actual counterplay due to it being a point-to-click ability. And if he needs to have a such ability in his kit, that shows that there's a problem with the kit if his ult is his only "reliable damage".

I know. The list of counterplay available to the Yasou is as follows

walk to gain flow, to gain shield

heal from pots

lifesteal off minions

Those are some valid points yes.

Morde has more Counterplay in his kit than people are willing to admit.

Edit:Like anyone who down votes this for example

NaalithDec 12, 20182 votes

I wonder what Mordekaiser is even going to be when they rework him. Like I loved playing Morde as a burst mage back in the early days of League but that's not really possible after season 5, and lots of people want him to be solo laners (with both top and mid camps) while other people want Riot to double down on bottom lane juggernaut carry stuff. The most key components of his kit (passive shield based on damage he deals and Children of the Dead) are also probably stupidly hard to design around.

I'm excited for basically any changes they do to him, but I worry that current Mordekaiser players will be alienated the way burst mage Morde players were back after the first rework. Some alienation will always happen but most players don't even know what Mordekaiser is supposed to be let alone the history of his past playstyles.

WAZZZUP500Dec 12, 20181 votes

Yeah Iv'e pretty much stopped playing morde. I'm a nautilus support main now, and now that smash ultimate came out, i'm not even playing league anymore (maybe once or twice a week)

Full BrainDec 12, 20181 votes

Nah hopefully they take that bot lane bullshit out of his kit and buff his solo laning power.

Vlada CutDec 12, 20181 votes

One rework later. Morde has 4 dashes and can go through walls

MordepoolDec 12, 20181 votes

[{quoted}](name=Vlada Cut,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=I8lhV9Q3,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2018-12-12T14:21:55.133+0000)

One rework later. Morde has 4 dashes and can go through walls

Jokes on you Morde can AA over certain walls right now

Vlada CutDec 12, 20181 votes

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Jokes on you Morde can AA over certain walls right now

One rework later, his ult becomes global on cast. :^)

MordepoolDec 12, 20182 votes

[{quoted}](name=Vlada Cut,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=I8lhV9Q3,comment-id=000800000000,timestamp=2018-12-12T15:54:49.154+0000)

One rework later, his ult becomes global on cast. :^)

Are you the Artist Formally known as LUDICROUS. Sure sounds like it

Vlada CutDec 13, 20181 votes

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Are you the Artist Formally known as LUDICROUS. Sure sounds like it

No man, just meme-ing around. [slayer-jinx-wink]

notMineskiexoDec 12, 20181 votes

Give Ironman movement speed based on how much shield you get in 2 seconds

AbyssmalHydraDec 12, 20181 votes

'Give morde ways to deal with marksman'

so...you want another certainly T rework? I mean any time a character can beat out marksman all thats gonna happen is hes gonna be exploited and abused in bot lane.

Make him a mid ranged burst mage sure. Anything else beyond that is asking to be broken.

stanizlJan 5, 20191 votes

Please nerf this champion it's sustain and shields are just so annoying and uncounterable he has dmg that can burst you + this ultimate that is making me dissapear only by it'self is so good.. then the shield + the healing is insane between 3 sec shield healing without having done dmg to ally and yes slowness effects everywhere and not killable champion so thank you for the buff!