The balance team in regards to hook champions over ardent champs is honestly astonishing

we havent met··4 votes·1,486 views

Any of the hook supports showing express lane dominance have no nerfs incoming or have been left untouched for a long time. Meanwhile enchanters get their items and kit nerfed repeatedly with the SWIFTNESS it truly makes me sad lmao

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Moody P2 votes

The swiftness? Ardent meta was half a season

we havent met1 votes

Pretty sure even when it was ardent meta there were some lock down picks that were very strong. Pyke has been broken since release. Longer than ardent. Try again

Abibyama II1 votes

Entire season infact because no one noticed how OP it was until the end of summer split and it was buffed in 7.2 I think

we havent met1 votes

Ardent meta was literally 2 years ago. And even during ardent meta, lock on picks still got played.

Darkdemon6532 votes

Censer is for actual supports and Riot does not like actual supports.

we havent met1 votes

You are absolutely right. Senna and Pyke are very evident of that

DuskDaUmbreon1 votes

Because none of them express solo lane dominance?

Literally the closest to viable we have for that is Pyke mid, with a 51.2% winrate and a .7% pickrate. Yes. Point seven. That's not a typo.

And Pyke is the best performing hook support in any role but support. Thresh doesn't even reach a 40% winrate outside of support, and Blitz only does so in mid (with a less than .1% pickrate). Naut has decent winrates in top and mid, but has a combined .4% pickrate between both lanes. And I believe he was originally designed to function in other lanes.

So, like, unless you're somehow counting Swain and Darius as hook supports...

######EDIT: I can't keep pickrate and winrate straight. Fixed.

Kai Guy1 votes

.7% WR was a typo, me thinks. Did you mean pick rate?

DuskDaUmbreon1 votes

Shit that was a typo. I was too busy making sure to emphasize the .7 that I didn't check to make sure I used the right rate in my comment.

I have brought shame and disgrace upon my family.

JustDonnyy1 votes

Hook champions aren't really much of a problem. If you're complaining about Pyke then I'm sure you can make a separate post for that or read one of the other million Pyke hate posts. But the other hook champions aren't too bad. Thresh and Naut especially are just average champions right now.

we havent met1 votes

Meanwhile blitz hook buff wasnt oppressive at all-

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

Remember the Ardent Censor meta?

How's it feel being the inferior one now, HMM?

DalekZec1 votes

Ardent meta is no better. That shit literally gave me a headache because of how toxic it was. It was the time where only and I mean ONLY bot lane mattered and whoever finished item 3504 1st would automatically win the game.

Hook champs are not better though. I play Nautilus from time to time and his Q hitbox is not even correct. I land them even though they are a miss.

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