Syndra's Ult

Rewt·Apr 25, 2017·7 votes·2,993 views

It should work like the culling but only hits champions

27 Comments

Mataka TekApr 26, 20174 votes

As Malzahar main, I can't even build my first item against a Syndra... because my first item has to be magic resistance to survive her ult.

WinTheWarOnPantsApr 26, 20171 votes

item 3157 works really well

Teridax68Apr 26, 20172 votes

I think the premise behind Syndra's point-and-click ult is that its targeting is very reliable because the setup is meant to be very unreliable -- you need to spawn a lot of orbs and have them all around your target at the same time, which means staying in the same place for an extended duration. Problem is, setting up Syndra's ult ends up not actually being that unreliable in practice: in lane, you're pretty much forced to stay in the same place the whole time, short of perma-zoning yourself out, and Syndra's pre-ult burst and CC is so fast and damaging (her stun is particularly consistent) that it's not difficult for her to finish most squishy mid laners off with a 4-5 orb ult. If enemies could destroy her orbs, or if her setup tools were less reliable, she wouldn't really need a change to her ult, but as it stands it's way too easy for her to bag kills when she hits 6.

SpookyNeedleApr 26, 20172 votes

Syndra's ult can use any balls across the map.

Teridax68Apr 26, 20172 votes

You're right, scratch that part in my post about having them all in the same area. That actually makes it significantly worse: since Syndra's orbs are untargetable to enemies and require no special positioning, there is effectively no way for her opponent to mitigate the power of her ult in any way, short of personal defense effects or forever staying out of range. The only way she can deal sub-par damage on her ult is if she messes up the timing on her orbs, so a competent Syndra effectively has no significant counterplay to her ult.

SpookyNeedleApr 26, 20171 votes

So Syndra's ult has the same counterplay as most ADC's

Teridax68Apr 26, 20172 votes

Not exactly, since Syndra's ult is fire-and-forget burst that continues to target your victim after you leave the initial casting range, whereas marksman damage tends to be more DPS-based and limited to their attack range. I totally agree with you that marksmen do lack counterplay, particularly since their DPS often approaches burst, but I do think Syndra exceeds even that amount of reliability.

SpookyNeedleApr 27, 20171 votes

Well one is an ult and one is a free ranged damage source. I don't actually dislike ADC's My favorites are Caitlyn and Xayah

RewtApr 27, 20171 votes

ADCs take a long time to scale up is what keeps them in line. Syndra can 100-0 someone with 1 item and level 6

Its All SkillzzApr 27, 20171 votes

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ADCs take a long time to scale up is what keeps them in line. Syndra can 100-0 someone with 1 item and level 6

if she lands everything you can be 100-0 by a syndra with a doran ring at lvl 6, but so can ap ezreal. fun fact is ap ezreal has the 2nd highest lvl 6 burst in the game, syndra has the #1.

RewtApr 27, 20171 votes

Thats like 3 skill shots though Syndra just needs to hit you with a big aoe and immediately use the push and its guaranteed to land. Then she hits R and welp. ur dead.

Its All SkillzzApr 27, 20171 votes

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Thats like 3 skill shots though Syndra just needs to hit you with a big aoe and immediately use the push and its guaranteed to land. Then she hits R and welp. ur dead.

yea for ez to kill you at lvl 6 with doran ring, he will need to ambush you with pre casted ult no minions to take the E land the W and the Q and ignite. syndra just has to hit you with the texas size stun which will follow up with a Q into ignite R and you will die.

PaquayApr 27, 20171 votes

But you can also summoner 3 or item 3157 her ult and then she has nothing left. If you do that to an ADC you've really only bought a couple of seconds. There is at least some counter play there.

RewtApr 27, 20171 votes

summoner 3 stops ADCs as well and Their damage isnt fire and forget. If you kill an ADC his damage stops. Syndra..... not so much.

PaquayApr 27, 20171 votes

I do think it's crap her ult continues when she's dead, but quite a few champs have that. Also, the ADC is practically fire and forget. They just right click and reposition between AAs.

The reason exhaust isn't as good against ADCs is partially the nerf to AS and also they still have the same damage potential when it falls off as they did before. When Syndra burns her ult, she's pretty much done.

SpookyNeedleApr 28, 20171 votes

Syndra is supposed to burst someone down, ADC's are meant for DPS...

DethflashApr 26, 20171 votes

That be cool. actually take skill then to one shot people with syndra ult instead of "oohhh the enemy champion is at 95% health" ** clicks R * (announcer says) "you have slain an enemy"

SlythionApr 26, 20178 votes

show me a non-fed Syndra that can 95-0 a champion without any balls around her, using purely her R

I honestly keep seeing people make this argument but I haven't seen it happen, I genuinely just want validation for this argument that everyone makes

RenownedWheat42Apr 26, 20171 votes

I just laned against a twitch in Treeline and I had a full item and a half up on him and couldn't even do this.

WinTheWarOnPantsApr 26, 20172 votes

show me a FED syndra that can 95-0 a champ with just ult...

Tiddy TwisterApr 26, 20172 votes

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show me a non-fed Syndra that can 95-0 a champion without any balls around her, using purely her R

I honestly keep seeing people make this argument but I haven't seen it happen, I genuinely just want validation for this argument that everyone makes

"Without any balls around her" is a pretty stupid requirement, since spamming q for a while without having to land anything requires zero skill. That's like saying "show me any veigar that can burst an enemy without any ap stacks". You're right, he probably wouldn't, but that's not how the game works. You essentially have to be afk to not have any balls on the ground.

Anyway, to answer your initial question, here you go:

https://youtu.be/FJPZUNiGJ2w?t=19109

SlythionApr 28, 20171 votes

alright fair enough with the ball's comment, heh

but the clip you showed was of a level 13 syndra against a level 10 ezreal...I can show at least 40 champions that can burst someone in 2 seconds with a lead like that

DethflashApr 27, 20171 votes

How about you look at the link someone posted. Clearly shows Syndra killed Ezreal (full Hp) with ignite and ult. Yes syndra had balls around but she actually never hit exreal with ANY of her abilites except her R.

SlythionApr 28, 20171 votes

how about you check out the order of the comments and realize the one with the video was in reply to my comment asking for one lol

And you're gonna tell me it's unfair for a burst mage with 3 levels on a manamune starting adc to be bursted with ult, tdl, and ignite?

Its All SkillzzApr 27, 20171 votes

since i played a game recently vs a syndra and she fed pretty bad to me i looked for some clips of ult one shots. https://youtu.be/JWpSX2UXTME https://youtu.be/gqzQ5nDR_LI are the two best clips i could find, the first yea she just press R i wason about 75% but i had karma shield aswell. and the last she press R and i was around 80% but i healed off dangerous game + lvled up putting me at close to 90-95% and i barely lived with like 12 hp. also in both cases she is not even ahead she has maybe 2 items and she is also not even lvl 16 yet.

RewtApr 27, 20171 votes

I wish her ult would stop IMMEDIATELY if she died. In clip 2 she hadnt even hit you with ball #1 before you killed her. All that damage was dealt to you while she was dead.

Its All SkillzzApr 27, 20171 votes

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I wish her ult would stop IMMEDIATELY if she died. In clip 2 she hadnt even hit you with ball #1 before you killed her. All that damage was dealt to you while she was dead.

yes there is many clips that game that i killed her and she pressed R and i died also. but i was like 50-60% so i didnt really count them as 1 shots.